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Author:  carter [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Cooper s oil pump

Gday I know with Cooper s oil pumps the slot drive shaft is longer. Is this the same for all 1275s? And also what happens if you have a spider drive cam? Is the shaft on that longer as well if going into a 1275 ? Thanks fellas and gals

Author:  drmini in aust [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cooper s oil pump

Yes the pump recess in the block is shallower on all 1275s except automatics.
If you have a spider drive cam you just use a spider drive pump. Ditto for a slot drive cam. To use either of these pumps in an S block you need to drill and tap one hole, 1/4" UNF.
(Edit) Cooper S pumps are very expensive now. You can convert a pin drive cam to slot drive by TIG welding an adaptor into it. Then use a 1275A+ slot drive pump.

Author:  Bubbacluby [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cooper s oil pump

GT's used a spider-drive cam and pump

Author:  carter [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cooper s oil pump

So just to clarify doc if I have an 1100s block I still need an extended shaft on the pump regardless of the whether it's a Cooper s block or not? And can you buy spider drive oil pumps that have a longer shat than ones on small notes? Cheers

Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cooper s oil pump

carter wrote:
So just to clarify doc if I have an 1100s block I still need an extended shaft on the pump regardless of the whether it's a Cooper s block or not? And can you buy spider drive oil pumps that have a longer shat than ones on small notes? Cheers


If you have an 1100S block with a spider drive cam, you need an 1100S spider drive (splined shaft) pump, or use a 1275A+ pump and a DrMini spider adaptor. This converts a spider drive cam to use the slot drive pump.

The terms `long shaft, and short shaft' only really applied to the Cooper S (long shaft) and the 850-997-998-1098 (short) which all used pin drive pumps.

Here's the 1275A+ slot drive pump and a spider adaptor.
Karcraft stocks them, or contact me.
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And as I mentioned above, a pin drive camshaft converted to slot drive. Before TIG welding the (re-machined) spider adaptor in.Image

Author:  carter [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cooper s oil pump

I have a spare spider drive pump but haven't got a cam as yet. Was thinking of having a chat to GR about that. If I get a spider drive cam will my pump fit straight away or will it need modding?

Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cooper s oil pump

Fits straight in. But you need the standard 1100S spider for your splined shaft pump. Not sure if still available new, except from http://www.aptfast.com in USA.
But I have a good s/h spider here, yours if you need one.

(Edit) 1100S spider is on its way.

Author:  TheMiniMan [ Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cooper s oil pump

Or,,, you can just buy a late "Spade-Drive" type camshaft, then simply fit the late 1275 hi-vol spade-drive pump & bolt them both in
easy-peasy

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