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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:11 pm 
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So cmon guys... how many of us actually have 100mm clearance at the lowest part of our minis?
I certainly don't.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:45 pm 
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I couldn't get my RWC for my MG-F a few years back as the mechanic said that is sat too low, I tried explaining that it was at it's stock height. I ended up having to get it done at another mechanics who were a bit more lenient.
Will have to measure the height of the mini one day, I know the side skirts on my Soarer sit about 8mm off the black stuff.


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Well the Heinz sat about 100mm off the road when we got it roadworthied but abit after that we got the suspension pumped up and it sits much higher now

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Not saying for fear of police attention :oops:

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Hang on, there were some Early Hydro cars that left the factory at 85mm werent there ? - i remember a conversation with Graham in Aus about it...

mine sits a "Little too low" .... cant go to coles without scraping the entire length of the pipe.....

Ok, I'll raise it a "little" i think....

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:27 pm 
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The RTA quote suspension requirements to comply as following;
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"Besides assuring a comfortable ride, a vehicle's suspension system controls wheel movement for handling and road holding. Manufacturers conduct extensive test programs to develop suitable suspension settings. Adjustments, such as lowering the vehicle, can upset the suspension characteristics and cause unpredictable handling. Generally, roll stabilizer bars, axle locating rods, upgraded shock absorbers or upgraded springs may be used provided they are suitable for the vehicle and are properly fitted. However, the following suspension modifications are not acceptable:
a) welding forged components such as stub axles or control arms;
b) fitting longer, non-standard shackles to leaf springs; and
c) fitting any additional components or altering the suspension so that the wheels or tyres may contact
any component under the full range of suspension and steering travel.
d) fitting any additional components or altering the suspension ride height so that any part of the
vehicle other than a wheel or tyre can contact the road in the event of a tyre deflation".
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Further to this there are legalities in regards to "Ground clearance[(i.e. ride height)" which states;
"A vehicle or combination of vehicles must have a ground clearance of;
a: At least 100mm of any point within 1 metre of an axle.
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There is specific laws in regards to compliance with Australian Design Rules and it all gets very complicated.
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Most cops use 100mm from the lowest hanging point of the vehicle, however most minis are low and common sense will hopefully prevail. I guess it is best to smile and just be polite.
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Most people are unaware a change of more than 15mm in rolling diameter of a wheel and tyre combination is also non compliant. This would count out 95% of 4WD aftermarket tyres. My wifes Nissan Xtrail has 215x70x15 tyres fitted. A Cooper ATR 225x70x15 will increase diameter by 14mm, but a 215x75x15 will increase 21mm and is technically illegal despite fitting on the rim fine.
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Check with insurance companies as they are now becoming aware of all this. Most state "If the RTA pass it that is fine". If they want out they will find a way!
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Sorry for the long winded effort.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:54 am 
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...and why did the police pull you over in the first place????????

Put standard trumpets back into your mini.... they will not pass your car with adjustable suspension fitted.

Put a washer or two between the knuckle and the trumpet to get a bit more height for the special day. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:32 am 
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...and why did the police pull you over in the first place????????

Put standard trumpets back into your mini.... they will not pass your car with adjustable suspension fitted.
Put a washer or two between the knuckle and the trumpet to get a bit more height for the special day. :wink:

C'mon... are you serious? there would be more decent Minis out there these days with Hi-Los than trumpets... and in NSW they pass a pink slip every year! :lol:

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Nath they do pass em.
I've SEEN minis with em that pass... Chris Bremners did.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:22 am 
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Yeah... you go try yourself then. :?

Steve has been failed many times for having adjustable suspension parts fitted. I believe it is because they are not ADR approved, and require some testing ($$) before they become passable.

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Pffft, my hilos have passed for the last 4 years......

Its a Mini, the worlds "Strangest" suspension, most inspectors wouldnt know what a trumpet looked like, let alone if yours is standard....

Nahh, no hassles here...

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Unfortunately for us, Adelaide isnt big... and there is only ONE inspection place that ALL the cars go thru. And now that we have a regular flow of Jap minis getting complianced, they are getting wise about all the bits that shouldnt be there...

You can always try your luck, but its $100(ish) per inspection until it passes.

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Sounds like inspections in Adelaide (Police and Regency) use the Gestapo as a role model.. I guess that's what happens, when you don't have our reasonable annual inspections. We bitch about them but they are a piece of piss to pass, really. :D

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NZ is the same - legally, you need hi-los certified but it would probably stilll get a Warrant of Fitness. Younger inspectors wouldn't know the difference between dry, wet or Hi-Los anyway.


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I think it's ridiculous that Hi-Los, adjustable tie bars, neg camber bottom arms etc would need to be certified by all these tinpot administrations in Oz, NZ and elsewhere.
FFS.... they have been common fitment in UK for 20 years or so, should be classified as a `standard' accessory. 8)

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