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Author:  ekul182 [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
Hi just looking to replace the roof on my Rover mini and wondering if they are all the same or are there differences between model?
Particularly looking at if a clubman roof would fit as there seem to be a lot of those around.
Thanks
Author:  Goldbrocade_62 [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
The roof skin itself would be the same except the drain but if you was cutting thru the pillars window an door openings didifferent
Author:  low n blown [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
The shape of the gutter is completely different as are the windows.
Author:  ekul182 [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
Thanks.
So if i cut above the gutter and just replaced the skin it should be able to be made to fit.
Cheers
Author:  Timbo [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
Big job. Depending on the year the roof skin is roller welded all the way round, so freeing off the donor roof without damage would be a major task, and then you have to put it back on to the recipient.

Tim
Author:  ekul182 [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
So do people think finding a rover roof and cutting though the pillars would be easier to match up? Panel distortion wouldn't be as much of an issue that way just making sure it all lined up for the windows to fit.
Author:  DavidE [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
ekul182 wrote:
So do people think finding a rover roof and cutting though the pillars would be easier to match up? Panel distortion wouldn't be as much of an issue that way just making sure it all lined up for the windows to fit.


Could I enquire why you need to replace the existing roof?
Author:  mickmini [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
Just put a Webasto sunroof in and save yourself the trouble if the existing roof is trashed.
Author:  ekul182 [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
DavidE wrote:
ekul182 wrote:
So do people think finding a rover roof and cutting though the pillars would be easier to match up? Panel distortion wouldn't be as much of an issue that way just making sure it all lined up for the windows to fit.


Could I enquire why you need to replace the existing roof?


The it looks like it has been turned into its roof at some stage and this has created lots of creases. I thought it would be easier to replace as I'm pretty new to panel beating. And I seemed to make things worse when I first took to it with a dolly.

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Author:  DavidE [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
ekul182 wrote:
DavidE wrote:
ekul182 wrote:
So do people think finding a rover roof and cutting though the pillars would be easier to match up? Panel distortion wouldn't be as much of an issue that way just making sure it all lined up for the windows to fit.


Could I enquire why you need to replace the existing roof?


The it looks like it has been turned into its roof at some stage and this has created lots of creases. I thought it would be easier to replace as I'm pretty new to panel beating. And I seemed to make things worse when I first took to it with a dolly.
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Yes, that looks to be a mess, but why not seek out a roof off an otherwise wrecked body such as a Clubman or a roundie?
Author:  ekul182 [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
I was just going on the fact that the windows and pillars were different to a clubman (seem to be a lot around but cutting below the gutter wouldn't work) and that the skin is roll welded on so cutting above the gutter would make things difficult to remove from the donor car?

Open to tips if anyone has done something similar just looking for the most simple fix without having to spend lots on a new roof skin. Shipping makes that option very pricey.
Author:  p7676 [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
IF you get the right roof skin glue it on using panel bond 2 part mix, tack weld the 4 corners.
P7676
Author:  Timbo [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
You could try talking to a panel beater about having it beaten out professionally. I've always found roofs quite hard to DIY because they are such a big area and any little ripple shows up.

Cutting through the pillars is the best way to avoid distortion, but you need to know what you're doing. Those areas are very important structurally so you wouldn't want to mess them up.

I don't know what other states are like but in Tassie now we have to have a structural inspection (called AMBRIS) on anything that is even close to structural, there's only a couple of inspectors and they are REALLY strict. It means that if you do it yourself, it needs be invisible (or at least look like the factory did it), or you're up for paying a professional to do it.

Tim
Author:  ekul182 [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
Thanks for that I think a professional opinion might be a good idea. It is certainly looking like the most complex area that I need to work on. The glue idea for a skin only might also work well but I think I'll get someone who knows what they are doing to see if they could beat it into shape first.


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Author:  9YaTaH [ Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Roof differences between Rover and clubman?
ekul182 wrote:
Thanks for that I think a professional opinion might be a good idea. It is certainly looking like the most complex area that I need to work on. The glue idea for a skin only might also work well but I think I'll get someone who knows what they are doing to see if they could beat it into shape first.


Good idea :D
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