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Author:  kasperflipped [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Engine & subframe re-installation, which way??

ahoy miniacs
just a quicky, i took my engine and subframe out for a bit of tlc on both and its coming up to the time for them to go back in again.
To take it out i went the old lift the body over the top trick leaving the engine on the subframe but now since ive separated the two, is it easier to install the the subframe first and drop engine in from top (with engine crane) or re-unite engine & subframe and drop body over the top again??
radical
trent

Author:  simon k [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Engine & subframe re-installation, which way??

I'd put them both in from underneath...

Author:  9YaTaH [ Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Engine & subframe re-installation, which way??

Yeah...as a famous Haynes once said "Assembly is the opposite of Disassembly!"

Either way is OK, Engine in last is probably marginally easier single handed...

Author:  peterb [ Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:47 am ]
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I set the engine and frame on a little wooden platform, real low. Then used the engine crane to lift front of body, easy either way but less likely to scratch anything trying to shoehorn motor in from top.
Mine has the lower engine steadies but you can easy Fab a bracket to stop motor flopping round in frame.

Author:  1071 S [ Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Engine & subframe re-installation, which way??

If you have a hoist then the body over the rest would probably be a good idea.... after all its how they built them in the first place.

However, the one time I tried this (without the hoist) I found it very difficult to get the subframe lined up properly with the body mounting points. If you can only lift the front of the body then it pivots around the rear wheels and come down in an arc. This means you need to set the subframe at exactly the right angle for it all to come together. Without the steering rack to hold the wheels together the engine/subframe is a pretty unwieldy lump..

And you need a lot of lift/vertical clearance to get the front of the shell over the top of the engine...

Depending on the level of assistance available ...and the associated availability of tools/lifts /jacks/ fittings etc ... IMHO its easier to fit the subframe and then drop the engine in...

Cheers, Ian

Author:  drmini in aust [ Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:21 pm ]
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I've done it both ways and agree with Ian. ^
Put a sheet of Masonite or thick cardboard between radiator and shroud as you lower the motor in.

Author:  simon k [ Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Engine & subframe re-installation, which way??

from memory when I did it, I lifted the back of the car a little bit, then pivoted on that, but also had jacks under the subframe to adjust the angle - I had the body hung from my crane (block and tackle would be better) by the braces at the corners of the crossmember

Author:  Bill B [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Engine & subframe re-installation, which way??

I know I'll get laughed-at but I now fit the power unit to the car, but without the radiator or oil filter head (or oil separator canister on Ss) to maximise clearance and reduce scratches. I know it takes time to fit all the missing parts, but if you aren't on a time limit, it's less stressful.

Author:  9YaTaH [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Engine & subframe re-installation, which way??

Bill B wrote:
I know I'll get laughed-at but I now fit the power unit to the car, but without the radiator or oil filter head (or oil separator canister on Ss) to maximise clearance and reduce scratches. I know it takes time to fit all the missing parts, but if you aren't on a time limit, it's less stressful.


Nobody laughs at scratched paint...good method :idea:

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