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Author:  TheMiniMan [ Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:12 am ]
Post subject:  Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
people who fit kwik-shifts to fairly-worn gearboxes & then think they can slam the gears thru quicker are what kills gearboxes

people please understand that if your gearbox is quite old (even tho it seems to work ok still) then you fit a kwik-shift (of whatever brand) & then if you think (for some reason) that because now you have a quick-shift that you can "Race" the gears,,,, "You" are wrecking your gearbox

calm down, take a chill pill, understand some physics here & you`ll be fine

a nice newly build (properly) gearbox with a quick-shift fitted (correctly) & used correctly will not kill your gearbox
it`s come to the point where i`ve been reading & hearing so many people tell me that the Kwik-shfits destroy gearboxes----> """RUBBISH""",,, absolute total rubbish.

Also---> some kwik-shifts (when fitted) may need a little extra clearance on the old gear-shift housing to allow the extra throw to clear the old shift-housing,,, some don`t,,, just be aware & do whats needed when fitting it & all will be well... but if you`re gearbox is 20-years old, please don`t blame the kwik-shift & spread utter crap about them.

i understand some people don`t like them , that`s fine, i don`t like "all" of them either, but some are sweet, when set-up well , a good box,,, then they`re great.

sorry, just getting sick & tired of hearing/reading it... :-)
ok, vent over :-)
Author:  Phil 850 [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
The "quick shifts" that I have seen are only a different ratio of the gear knob to gear lever pivot in the remote housing to the ball end of the lever.
All this does is change the travel distance of the gear knob.
You could just pull the old gear lever faster for the same effect. :D
Don't the synchro rings still have to "match" the gear speeds so that the dogs can engage. Forcing them to engage before the speeds are matched can't be good for the dogs, hence chipped dog teeth. Or am I not seeing something obvious :|
Author:  deluxe67 [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
I'm clueless when it comes to "quick shifts". How/ what do they do? It's never occurred to me my shift is "slow" (well sorted newish remote setup)...
Author:  timmy201 [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
They are also known as "short shifts". They reduce the throw needed to change gears by changing the leverage ratio of the pivot point.

E.g.
http://minisport.com.au/mini-kad-quick- ... alloy-type

http://minisport.com.au/mini-kad-quick- ... or-reverse
Author:  deluxe67 [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
Do they make a noticeable difference? By the time I clutch in and out I've already changed the gear??
Author:  PDJ [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
deluxe67 wrote:
Do they make a noticeable difference? By the time I clutch in and out I've already changed the gear??


Said everyone who can drive a manual :lol:
Author:  Matt I [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
I fitted a KAD shifter when I converted from the remote box to rod change The KAD rod change one is about the only one of these 'quick' shifters worth using as far as I can tell. With a synchro gearbox shift speed will always be limited by the syncros, and as other have said shortening the throw of the shifter doesn't allow the shift to be made any faster... In the case of the rod change, the standard shifter has a pretty long throw relative to the remote, but with the 'quickshift' it is nicer to drive than the remote was, even with all the worn bushes etc. replaced.
Author:  bluehishouse [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
Ive got the pudding stirrer shift down to almost 25 seconds.

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Author:  Kennomini [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
bluehishouse wrote:
Ive got the pudding stirrer shift down to almost 25 seconds.

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Haha, good one :lol:
Author:  zulu_warrior1976 [ Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
bluehishouse wrote:
Ive got the pudding stirrer shift down to almost 25 seconds.



:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
LOL!
Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
Easy and quick to make an Oz quickshift.. cut 40mm or more off the shift lever and rethread it.;)
Author:  gtogreen1969 [ Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
drmini in aust wrote:
Easy and quick to make an Oz quickshift.. cut 40mm or more off the shift lever and rethread it.;)
I have trouble reaching the gearlever as it is. Probably because the seat has to be all the way back to fit my legs in.
Author:  1071 S [ Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
Actually I think that's the main reason to buy a Quikshift.

I have a Paddy Hopkirk recliner with custom mounts, a lowered steering column and smaller steering wheel. I used to find it difficult to reach first when strapped in. With the KAD Quikshift fitted the knob is about a hand width from the rim of the wheel.

While I couldn't really say shifts are quicker, I do find the reduced travel much more comfortable....

Cheers, Ian
Author:  dalmeny [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
1071 S wrote:
Actually I think that's the main reason to buy a Quikshift.

I have a Paddy Hopkirk recliner with custom mounts, a lowered steering column and smaller steering wheel. I used to find it difficult to reach first when strapped in. With the KAD Quikshift fitted the knob is about a hand width from the rim of the wheel.

While I couldn't really say shifts are quicker, I do find the reduced travel much more comfortable....

Cheers, Ian


Well done Ian. It's not about the speed, it's about the reduced travel.
Author:  Hobson [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kwik-shifts dont kill gearboxes
Maybe they need a universal rename to ShortShifts
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