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 Post subject: 8 port head
PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:47 pm 
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hey guys, there is now a 8 port head being manifactured in sydney for about $3500 email: [email protected] for more info ,

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Yeah they have a website too, http://kenelder.tsx.org/
but watch for all the *&*^&%^ popups there... :cry:

That $3,500 price will not get it running in the car- you will need more cubic$$...

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For flow comparisons of this head with others, check out http://www.planet.eon.net/~chichm/tech/8-port.htm
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if it was about 2K id be buying one

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so let me get this right..... you pay $3500 for a 8 port head (no motor,box,carbs or anything) that will get you what maximum 140hp with a killer 1380. Sorry but i just dont see the value in that, especially if you need to get a 1275 to put it on, carbs, upgraded box (still 4 speed) etc, you will be looking at over $8000 easy, but hey if you wanted to go all out on an a series then this is they way i spose.

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13secmini wrote:
so let me get this right..... you pay $3500 for a 8 port head (no motor,box,carbs or anything) that will get you what maximum 140hp with a killer 1380. Sorry but i just dont see the value in that, especially if you need to get a 1275 to put it on, carbs, upgraded box (still 4 speed) etc, you will be looking at over $8000 easy, but hey if you wanted to go all out on an a series then this is they way i spose.


For sure... I would so rather spend that money on getting a 4EFTE squeezed in! ;) ;)

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i'd rather spend 100 bucks and get my slave cylinder replaced.. :)

then i can actually drive my car.. :)

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13secmini wrote:
so let me get this right..... you pay $3500 for a 8 port head (no motor,box,carbs or anything) that will get you what maximum 140hp with a killer 1380. Sorry but i just dont see the value in that, especially if you need to get a 1275 to put it on, carbs, upgraded box (still 4 speed) etc, you will be looking at over $8000 easy, but hey if you wanted to go all out on an a series then this is they way i spose.


For sure... I would so rather spend that money on getting a 4EFTE squeezed in! ;) ;)


And still have money left over for a paint job :D

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At a time when GR is seeing 155HP numbers on the engine dyno from 1300 A series 5 ports with one Weber, he said he got 170+ from one with an Elder 8 port (after porting) and 2 Webers.

Seems a lot of trouble and $$$$ spent for 15 or 20 ponies.. I'll take a BMW K100 bike head instead, thanks!
Or put a down payment on a KAD twin cam head...? nah, I'll take the Bimmer! :lol:

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hey kev do you know if mad matt ever got hes bmw headed mini going in the end?? i knew he was close to completing it a couple of years ago.

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No idea- he's not been on the MM/MS board for a while.
Maybe has too many unfinished projects- hey we both know about those, hehe... :lol:

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Ahh, but think about an 8-port head, tuned headers into a GT2.5 Turbo, then on the induction side, you could have tuned-port intake runners and EFI ...........

1310 + 14Psi + Well controlled Fuel and Ignition = Excess of 200Bhp ?

Almost worth $3500+ ......

Then again, I've been looking at the spare 12G202 head I have here... Wonder how hard it would be to do the old "Escort-Downdraft" trick on it..... (Braze in some new intake runners ........) hhhmmmmm :twisted:

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Have (use of) milling machine ...can use.... :P

Why f**k a good 202 head- let's try a garden variety 12A1456 first! Exhaust ports are the same anyhow and you aren't gonna use the inlets.

Put 'em in on the spark plug side... then you can cram 4 in there, not 2..

I would use Araldite or Devcon instead of brazing it, for a trial to see if it works. 8)

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Have (use of) milling machine ...can use.... :P

Why f**k a good 202 head- let's try a garden variety 12A1456 first! Exhaust ports are the same anyhow and you aren't gonna use the inlets.

Put 'em in on the spark plug side... then you can cram 4 in there, not 2..

I would use Araldite or Devcon instead of brazing it, for a trial to see if it works. 8)


Off ya go then man, have fun!

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kazjim wrote:
Ahh, but think about an 8-port head, tuned headers into a GT2.5 Turbo, then on the induction side, you could have tuned-port intake runners and EFI ...........

1310 + 14Psi + Well controlled Fuel and Ignition = Excess of 200Bhp ?

Almost worth $3500+ ......

Then again, I've been looking at the spare 12G202 head I have here... Wonder how hard it would be to do the old "Escort-Downdraft" trick on it..... (Braze in some new intake runners ........) hhhmmmmm :twisted:

J
yeh i like thr cozzie idea, it still wouldnt be 8 ports tho ;) good luck with the idea m8

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Who Needs 8 ports when you got a Turbo ?

Kev, We'll chat more about this I think..... I've got a contact with an "experimental" EFI COmputer that I can probably "BETA" test for him..... Otherwise, I'll find a Wolf 3D or similar to start with (Chris has a Motec M8 we could Borrw, yes ?)

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