Just wondering if anyone has thought about a conversion from a late 80's or 90 model Mazda 121 shade?
5 speed manual.
1.3L.
Free
(that's the main reason why were thinking about it).
Anyone got and power and weight figures on these engines?
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| Author: | Kennomini [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mazda 121 shade |
Just wondering if anyone has thought about a conversion from a late 80's or 90 model Mazda 121 shade? 5 speed manual. 1.3L. Free (that's the main reason why were thinking about it).
Anyone got and power and weight figures on these engines? |
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| Author: | Mearcat [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mazda 121 shade |
Our old '96 mazda 121 (Bubble) had a figure of 55kW but I'm sure the earlier ones would be under 50kW |
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| Author: | subwayseth [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:23 pm ] |
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Engine Size 1.498 L / 1.323 L No. Cylinders Four cylinder Fuel ULP Transmission Four speed automatic or five speed manual Wheels Driven Front Wheel Acceleration 14.5 secs / 12.2 secs Warranty Three years, 80,000 km Engine Engine Type Four cylinder, in-line, SOHC, 16 valves Capacity in Litres 1.498 L / 1.323 L Induction Electronic fuel injection Fuel Recommendation ULP Claimed max. power 64 kW at 5500 rpm / 53 kW at 5500 rpm Claimed max. torque 128 Nm at 3500 rpm / 107 Nm at 3000 rpm Power (kW per 1000kg) 42.7 kW/litre / 40.1 kW/litre Transmission Type Manual / Four speed automatic or five speed manual Wheels Alloy Steel Dimensions 5.5 x 14 inch / 4.5 x 13 inch Tyres Steering Type Power assisted rack and pinion Turning Circle 3.1 Turning Circle (measured) 9.8 metresm Dimensions Mass 970 kg / 910 kg Length 3800 mm Width (including mirrors) 1650 mm Height 1500 mm Ground clearance 140 mm Seating capacity 5 Fuel capacity 40 litres Towing Max. towed mass (trailer plus load) 700 kg NRMA Theft Rating Points on scale 0 - 120 (high score is best) 22 Acceleration - Test results 50 - 80km/h 6.8 secs / 6.5 secs 60 - 100km/h 9.9 secs / 8.2 secs 0 - 80km/h 9.3 secs / 7.6 secs 0 - 100km/h 14.5 secs / 12.2 secs Fuel Consumption Best recorded during testing 8.1 L / 7.4 L Worst recorded during testing 9.0 L / 7.9 L Average on test 8.4 L / 7.6 L Braking Distance to stop (from 80km/h) 31.7 metres / 35.5 metres Noise Interior noise at constant 80km/h 71 dB(A) & yea these things are FUGLY
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| Author: | JC [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:02 am ] |
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"There is always free cheese in a mousetrap" |
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| Author: | bnicho [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:25 pm ] |
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The engine and box is huge, as it's basically a Laser/323 motor with a smaller bore and stroke. Yuck. Don't spend $5000 to fit a free but crap engine. Spend $500-1000 on a better engine and end up spending $5500-6000 all up and have a better result. IMHO of course. Cheers, |
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| Author: | meeni [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:14 pm ] |
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yeah i wouldnt take out a 40kw engine to put a 50kw engine with a slower 0-100 time in. buy a vtech
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| Author: | Archangel007 [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:56 pm ] |
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I think you can get better bang for your buck with another engine, even if you have to pay for it. Cheers, Tricky |
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| Author: | Kennomini [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:31 pm ] |
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meeni wrote: yeah i wouldnt take out a 40kw engine to put a 50kw engine with a slower 0-100 time in. buy a vtech
Yeah but the Mazda is around 270kg heavier than a mini so the 0-100 would be a bit closer. Also 53kw is 73bhp so comparing that to a mini is a bit better to. But if the engine is a big fella that will make the conversion much harder. Might have a closer look at the dimensions of it but it looks like bit of a dud. |
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| Author: | bnicho [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:00 pm ] |
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Kennomini wrote: meeni wrote: yeah i wouldnt take out a 40kw engine to put a 50kw engine with a slower 0-100 time in. buy a vtech Yeah but the Mazda is around 270kg heavier than a mini so the 0-100 would be a bit closer. Also 53kw is 73bhp so comparing that to a mini is a bit better to. But if the engine is a big fella that will make the conversion much harder. Might have a closer look at the dimensions of it but it looks like bit of a dud. 73hp can be achieved by a warmed over 1275 no problems. |
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| Author: | Kennomini [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:26 pm ] |
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That 73bhp mini lump could easily cost 5k though, and it doesn't have a 5th gear 
I'm saying the 121 is a great idea just saying it's a little better than a std mini. Extra 20hp, 5 gears, parts may be cheaper and easier to obtain and if it gets forced induction a replacement engine will be easy and cheap to get aswell. |
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