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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:05 am 
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Hi all,

Now I do know that on a mini you normally get 2 cylinders that will run a little weaker than the other two, i think it is the inner 2 from memory.

now can anyone give me their thoughts on why my engine seems to be a little rich on cylinders 1 & 2 and a bit too lean on cylinders 3 & 4?

any thoughs?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:22 pm 
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my mate and I were playing around with his engine analyser on the weekend, and one of the tricks it does is kill the spark for each cylinder in turn and show you how much power (in terms of RPM at idle) each cylinder is making. The graph it shows makes it really obvious how little work the inner cylinders do - cylinders 1 and 4 do a bit over 30% of the work, and cylinders 2 & 3 do a bit under 20% (it's particularly noticeable with twin carbs... )

the reason our engines behave this way is because the cylinders fire in pairs, we all know the firing is 1,3,4,2, but extend it out, and it becomes 2 - 1 then 3 - 4. The air flow for 3 & 4 stops while 2 & 1 are being fed, then the air flow for 1 & 2 stops while 3 & 4 are being fed.... so when 2 and 3 start to suck in mixture, the air needs to accelerate into the port, but when 1 and 4 start to suck in mixture, the air is already flowing.... hence 1 and 4 get more fuel, run richer, and make more of the power

that's on an NA car....

you've got forced induction, so I bet what's happening for you is that there is boost being built up in the inlet ports, and there might be fuel forming big droplets - so when 2 & 3 open their valves to suck in mixture, there's a sudden rush, and those 2 get a heap of juice, but when 3 & 4 open up, they get clean charge from the turbo

just my brain dump ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:56 pm 
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Are you basing it on plug colour? If so it could be a crack in the head on the intake port on 3/4 - how's your water level going? Could also be gasket leak on the manifold face (sorry to scare you :lol:). Might be something else - is it under load or idle ?

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