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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:47 am 
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i had a bmc works 731 cam in an 1100, was really nice at idle and low rpm and was fantastic up to 7000rpm too, really smooth.

wouldnt beat an re-13 on a dyno or a drag race but it is possibly a safer choice for a roady.

my 1100 hauled arse in any case :)

i think there are more modern versions of this cam around now? the kent 266 i think? and the swiftune sw07


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yes, beautiful little road cam, very smooth & enough torque for the average Joe but can still rev quite well, my dad had them in all our delivery vans.

Camshaft Engineerings version was the 668
both Wade cams & Ivan Tighes was the 104
Waggotts is the 509

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TheMiniMan wrote:
my dad had them in all our delivery vans.


hell yea


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I had a Wade 104 in the wife's 1293, with ToyoMini (Corolla) 1.46:1 rockers.
It went OK with twin HS4s, and made 59.4HP at dyno day last year. But I like my 1275s to have more top end sizzle.:P
Would be a good cam in a 1098, I agree.

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hey Doc , i`m with ya there, i always love more top end,,, but prefer it "Every-where" through out the entire rev range even more :-) & with all dads delivery vans (5 of them) being 1415cc strokers with some mild head work & single 1&3/4 carbs & opened & radiusd manifolds etc etc etc,,, well they had plenty all round :-) But yeah a bit bigger cam & a another carb would have been nice-er :-) But dad really liked the "stealth" mode,,, Quiet, smooth, clean, tidy & almost Std looking in nearly all respects, very very torquey tho & still revd past 7000rpms on pump fuel :-) I really miss thos days zoomin in & out of traffic 8-9 hours per day delivering parts all around Brisbane quicker than anyone could have

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I really do miss those days :-(

we even had a minivan on the roof :-)

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if you ever saw the "red-white-blue" blur of the mini van zipping past you around Brisbane back in the 80s,,,well it`s a good bet it was me :-)

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did i ever mention how much i miss those days ?? :-) :-) :-)

ok, sorry ,,, back to the cam conversation :-)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:02 pm 
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Ha ha the good ol' 1980's pretty awesome time. Life seemed more fun then hey?

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The cams i have are a piper magnum 270 , kent 276 or a standard mg metro cam , can anyone give me any ideas on which one would be the best for fast road use?


stevethepom, if these are the three cams you actually have and you aren't interested in buying anymore, I would probably lean toward the MG Metro cam... It was the hottest A-series cam ever fitted to a production car and it performs just as well as the 731, 800, not quiet as good as the Kent 266 or the 104 though... but for a ROAD car those would be my choice (if you aren't interested in getting another one), its smoother than the 731 (doesn't sound as cool tho :cry:) but still good at 7000rpm. The kent 276 or the piper you have, in a 1098 would be closer to a rally spec than a road one, still useable in a road car tho, just won't come on the cam till a bit later, can get anoying (but it sounds like you are going for something a little spicier than just a warm road car anyway). I've seen a 276 in an 1100 and it didn't start coming on till 2000-2200ish.

Just my 2cents

Genuine 12G295? Lucky you, I have 1 of these, pretty rare though.

Good luck with it.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:34 pm 
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Hi Steve
If you want your motor to make some sort of power use the
Piper 270 or the kent 276 both these cams are around the RE13
in duration and lift figures and will work very well with combo
you are using both these cams will out perform the metro cam
by quite a bit
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Ah so thats what an RE13 is, everyone recomends them but no one can tell you what they are :lol: So its similar to an 270/276? How do your numbers differ if you don't mind me asking?

So there you go Steve if your chasing horses (which you seem to be as I thought and mentioned) than the 270 or 276, but if your going for a road motor the MG cam.

Gotta be happy with that, after nearly a month 2 people have actually answered your original question :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:44 pm 
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Hi Steve
Sorry it took nearly a month to answer you im to busy drinking
cups of tea with people and learning lots of new stuff, and scoffing
Matts wagon wheel down before any body else can get some.
Yes phat kat i can tell you about the RE13 its 274/274 duration
.290 lift at the lobe .016 tappet settings with std rockers but all
that doesnt tell you much about the cam,its what in beteen the
opening and the top of the lobe that counts this cam is very good
and out performs cams a lot bigger thats why Keith Calver sells
a lot of these cams world wide.
Now my new cam is 260 duration has .270 lift at the lobe and is
a bigger cam it has a lot more duration under the curtin area.
Another big factor is where the lobe centres are ground and
where it is set up in the motor
Graham russell


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OH Sorry Steve
Next time if you want to know any thing Phone me
Graham


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:24 pm 
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Thanks guys for all the input , after waying things up i think i'm gonna give the piper 270 a go and see what happens .Nice to here from you Graham i'll give your + 100 1098 pistons a go .


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