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 Post subject: Megajolt/Megasquirt
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:23 pm 
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Has anyone seen of fitted either a megojolt or megasquirt system? They seem to provide an amazing amount of versitility.

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 Post subject: Re: Megajolt/Megasquirt
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:51 pm 
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Stuart2004 wrote:
Has anyone seen of fitted either a megojolt or megasquirt system? They seem to provide an amazing amount of versitility.

I messaged my local MS expert and asked him for some information on this. Here is his reply:
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Do a Google on "fuel injected Mini", should throw up some information.
Fitting the Megasquirt would be straightforward after the manifold and fuel rail issues are sorted. Probably the best idea would be to import these items from a late model fuel injected Mini then add the MS ECU and sensors.
You may need the head as well, the normal A - series has only two inlet ports I think.


I hope this helps. I know a few guys that have fitted it - not to minis - and have enjoyed great benefits. Although it can work out to be an expensive exercise.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:58 pm 
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There are at least 3 turbo guys on here using the megajolt. No squirts that i know of..

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i megasquirted my '92 SPi (now ums.) and my '89 998 with factory SPi parts (fuel tank, manifold, etc).

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Megajolt is very easy to set up on a Mini once you mount the trigger wheel on the crank pulley/harmoonic balancer.
The last one we fitted (pristics) used a Ford Falcon trigger wheel, I mounted on the inner hub of the balancer. If you mount it on the outer part it could move round on the rubber, but I've not see that happen yet. :wink:
The sensor we mounted on a bracket screwed to the front engine plate.

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Howdy,

As Kev says, mine is fitted - Its a Megajolt V4
Ford Falcon triger wheel and Sensor, Mondeo coil packs and mondeo EDIS module

Here is a REALLY bad pic of the trigger wheel on the balancer.

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In the summer 2008 edition of Mini World thay have an article on fitting a Canems injection and ECU system into a mini. It looks pretty good and from the look of it purpose built for the Mini. Price isn't too bad either.

It looks like it carries the same features as MS but a bit more purpose built. the article gives you a blow by blow description so you can see what you're in for if you decide on going down that path,

The website is www.canems.co.uk

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Thanks Dr Mini and Pristic, Have you guys seen some real advantages of this system? Is it worth all the fuss ect, also I assume that you just blank off the dizzy, is that correct?

Also How much did the system cost?

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Hi Pete,

Could i ask how did you attach the trigger wheel to the crank pulley? Went for a trip down to my trustly U-PULL-IT and got one. Also on the 1996 mondeo model where is the edis module? i spent like a hour trying to find it; taking most of the electrics off lol Im guess the 1996 onwards had the edis built into the computer?? lol

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craig goss wrote:
Hi Pete,

Could i ask how did you attach the trigger wheel to the crank pulley? Went for a trip down to my trustly U-PULL-IT and got one. Also on the 1996 mondeo model where is the edis module? i spent like a hour trying to find it; taking most of the electrics off lol Im guess the 1996 onwards had the edis built into the computer?? lol

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I did all the machining for Pete.
First, I cut a slice out of an old balancer to see how thin the hub is (very!)
I set the balancer up in the lathe and just cleaned up the inside of the hub to a depth of 2 mm.
The Falcon trigger wheel got bored out and a spacer plug welded to it though its 3 bolt holes, the spacer was then finish machined to locate into the hub.
It is attached by two 5/16 UNF socket head capscrews that go into the 2 puller holes in the balancer.
The bore of the spacer clears a 1-5/16" socket, so it all comes off together without removing the trigger wheel.

It would have been a lot less work if the trigger wheel was bigger than the crank balancer. Benjamin and I have spoken about getting some laser cut... :wink:

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PM SLO998 I think it is. He has a trigger wheel in a modified distributor I think.

Or check his thread and read through, its in the A/A+ modifications section.

It's the injected and supercharged 998 Mini.

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The advantage of putting the trigger wheel on the crank is no spark scatter, which you will still get with a dizzy mounted one due to timing chain slack and backlash in the skew gears on the dizzy driveshaft. :wink:

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Stuart2004 wrote:
Have you guys seen some real advantages of this system? Is it worth all the fuss ect


With a turbo engine, it is essential for correct timing as a dizzy only accounts for engine speed, not load. Dizzys are for the flat caps, ie originality - a significant gain in economy and drivability can be had with a good ign set-up. You wouldn't necessarily see a hp gain simply because the dizzy can be set at the right advance for that, it's all the other operating conditions where electronic anything (this includes EFI) comes into play.

Also, you can buy trigger wheels online eg http://trigger-wheels.com/store/index1.html

I have a pickup in the dizzy but this was all part of the stealth efi set-up, I will be changing it to crank as the signal is unreliable and I continually get ref/sync errors on the ECU at idle.

Also - be careful trying to put a trigger wheel like this on a roundy, there is less room, particularly the Mk1 S balancer.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:34 am 
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Stuart2004 wrote:
Thanks Dr Mini and Pristic, Have you guys seen some real advantages of this system? Is it worth all the fuss ect, also I assume that you just blank off the dizzy, is that correct?

Also How much did the system cost?

Thanks
Stuart


Yes mate, certainly.
Much smoother idle... cold weather running and startup is much better.
Also, the timing for a turbo as Daniel said its much more delicate as you are getting the right advance at different RPM and loads.

Price? Budget about $450-$500 for the lot max.

Yes, blank off the dizzy (I have mine still sitting in there for now)
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craig goss wrote:
Hi Pete,

Could i ask how did you attach the trigger wheel to the crank pulley? Went for a trip down to my trustly U-PULL-IT and got one. Also on the 1996 mondeo model where is the edis module? i spent like a hour trying to find it; taking most of the electrics off lol Im guess the 1996 onwards had the edis built into the computer?? lol

Cheers


Its on the firewall almost smack bang in the middle of it. You cant miss it (if its there) ;)
Not sure which year the mondeo was though... maybe look on older ones.

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