how about this one?
already has 12" wheels, so ~$700 spent on a set of 8.4" disks and you're there...
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| Author: | rehab1964 [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:24 pm ] |
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We're looking at a couple of different mini's for my son at the moment and have struck a few snags. One car has a 1275 but drum brakes which I understand isn't roadworthy in Victoria. This car has also been de-seamed which our mechanic has said would need to be "engineered" to be considered roadworthy - I guess there's no way to engineer this modification without stripping the paint off to see how the work was done. The second car has a Camira brake conversion which I'm also told isn't legal in Victoria. We use a very good mini mechanic for our cars (see below) and I do trust his judgement and advice, just wondering what if any comments other Victoria members might have to make. Cheers Kevan |
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| Author: | Curly [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:05 pm ] |
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I believe you are correct in that both vehicles would need to be engineered in order to be re-registered in Vic. The easiest option for you would be to forget the deseamed car (far too difficult to get approval), and get a set of Cooper S discs to replace the Camira items on the second one. You may be able to convince the seller to reduce his asking price enough to cover the cost of some second-hand discs. He could keep the Camira ones and sell them on. |
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| Author: | sgc [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:54 pm ] |
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I wasn't aware that a deseamed vehicle would require an Engineer's cert, but it wouldn't surprise me in the Police State. The 1275 with drums is definitely a no-no. With the Camira conversion, that should be legal as long as it's engineered. If you can get an engineer to sign off on it, pretty much any modification which improves the safety of the original car shouldn't be a problem. |
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| Author: | Spaceboy [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:18 pm ] |
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keep looking? theres plenty around |
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| Author: | rehab1964 [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:21 pm ] |
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sgc wrote: I wasn't aware that a deseamed vehicle would require an Engineer's cert, but it wouldn't surprise me in the Police State. The 1275 with drums is definitely a no-no.
With the Camira conversion, that should be legal as long as it's engineered. If you can get an engineer to sign off on it, pretty much any modification which improves the safety of the original car shouldn't be a problem. apparently a engineer has found themselves in hot water over a brake conversion hence the isse with the Camira brakes, something to do with too many holes drilled in the hubs I think |
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| Author: | rehab1964 [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:22 pm ] |
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Spaceboy wrote: keep looking? theres plenty around
I wish that were the case - reasonable cars for around 5K are very hard to find |
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| Author: | sgc [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:01 pm ] |
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rehab1964 wrote: Spaceboy wrote: keep looking? theres plenty around I wish that were the case - reasonable cars for around 5K are very hard to find I'll second that, I was looking at basically everything on the market earlier in the year, and you'd struggle to pay less than $8k for a good example. The situation's possibly different in other states -- there seem to be more Mini's on the road in Sydney, for example... |
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| Author: | sports850 [ Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:02 pm ] |
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sgc wrote: I wasn't aware that a deseamed vehicle would require an Engineer's cert, but it wouldn't surprise me in the Police State.
They do in every state , to deseam the body you are literally unstitching the body completely (a little at a time of course) and welding it back together . If your welding is good then you've got nothing to worry about , if it isn't and you hit something the shell could fall apart around you . |
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| Author: | bnicho [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:06 pm ] |
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Both should be engineered for full rego. But you may find some clubs will be more lenient on these issues when putting the car on Club Permit plates. Cheers, |
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| Author: | Spaceboy [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:53 pm ] |
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http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/pr ... e+matchany http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/pr ... e+matchany http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/pr ... e+matchany http://www.autotrader.com.au/iteminfo/a ... ique+Cars_ i personally wouldnt pay over 5k for a smallblock and drums with the exception of something rare and immaculate, like a sports 850, elf/hornet, SS or LS |
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| Author: | rehab1964 [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:23 pm ] |
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thanks Spaceboy we've seen one of those cars and hope to see a second on the weekend. once they start talking rust I tend to shy away a bit, I can't weld and figure that even if I get someone to do it I'll still need to get the paint work done too which really bumps the price up. fortunately my son is happy with a small bore engine, I would prefer that he has disc brakes because the margin for error for a learner has to be better with them but at a pinch if the rest of the car is right I'll buy it and fit the discs later cheers K |
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| Author: | Ziegech [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:05 pm ] |
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its good that they know what they ae talking about for your safety. i went to a local non mini literate (this decade) guy for a road worthy all he asked was what i had done to the car i said full re condition he drove it into the work shop checked the lights all worked and had a look underneath it then 10 minutes later i was off with a roadworthy. didnt check seatbelts or even ask about rust repair nothing didnt even pick that i had only half pumped up suspension. sure its easier but its dangerous i had a bolt on my steering arm on the verge of snapping off and it wasnt picked that couldve been bad |
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| Author: | rehab1964 [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:12 pm ] |
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Ziegech wrote: its good that they know what they ae talking about for your safety. i went to a local non mini literate (this decade) guy for a road worthy all he asked was what i had done to the car i said full re condition he drove it into the work shop checked the lights all worked and had a look underneath it then 10 minutes later i was off with a roadworthy. didnt check seatbelts or even ask about rust repair nothing didnt even pick that i had only half pumped up suspension. sure its easier but its dangerous i had a bolt on my steering arm on the verge of snapping off and it wasnt picked that couldve been bad
exactly, frustrating as it is I'd rather not have my son driving a car that might split in two if someone hit it |
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| Author: | simon k [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:50 pm ] |
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how about this one? already has 12" wheels, so ~$700 spent on a set of 8.4" disks and you're there... |
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| Author: | mason [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:36 am ] |
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Is the wof standard in victoria like we have in New Zealand. Last time time i was in melbourne there was talk of it?. Police there were worried about people drive around with vice grips instead of steering wheels and fuel containers sitting on top the roof of the car and graivity feeding the carbrettor |
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