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Author:  sociallydisabled [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Adams Engine Rebuild -Engine Finished, Fitted-
How hard is it guys? what special tools will i need? just thinking i could do this to save some $$s even if i have to buy some tools, id rather do it myself to learn. Should i buy a book or something? ive got my workshop manual, not sure if thats good enough, had a quick flick.
Author:  1310/71 [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:44 pm ]
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Easy enough to do. Don't really need any special tools to pull it apart (except maybe for flywheel puller).

Is the engine already out of the car?

make sure it's drained of oil and start at the top, outside in, would be my recommendation.
One tip - once you got the head and other stuff off and just have the bare block and gearbox, it's easier to stand the block "face down" on a blanket or old sheet, undo the gearbox to block bolts and lift the gearbox off the block rather than the other way around. Same goes for putting the gearbox back on as well. The only thing to watch then is the rubber o-ring oil seal stays in place and the gaskets don't get too knocked around.
KB
Author:  sociallydisabled [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:52 pm ]
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cool cool whats a flywheel puller worth? i think i saw a cheepie at super crap. do mechanics hate getting a stripped engine?

and how do i get the head studs out?
Author:  mickmini [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:05 pm ]
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workshop manual should be fine. recommend you get a bunch of snap-close plastic bags and a marker to put bits into and label as they come off the engine. when you take the timing cover off, all the bolts go in a bag for the timing cover only etc that way you wont be standing there scratching your head wondering where the missing bolt is or worse, why you have one left over at the end :wink:

to get head studs out that you don't want to reuse (ie you will be geting new ones) you can put two nuts on and lock them against each other (turn one in one direction and the other the opposite so they tighten against each other) and then undo the stud using the locked nuts. i don't recommend this if you want to reuse, as it can damage the stud and nut threads. better to get a stud gripping socket (don't know their proper name).

depending on the mechanic. it should not be a problem as long as they are experienced with minis. If not, like yourself, pulling it apart is the best way to learn how to put it back together. if you go to the trouble of pulling it apart, you can probably assemble it, but you would need to take the bits to someone qualified to remachine, or at worst tell you its a lost cause and it needs to be replaced. you need a torque wrench and feeler guages to reassemble, not really any other special tools.

flywheel pullers can be had from karcraft for about $60. best investment the mate i borrowed it from has made, apart from maybe his trailer :lol:
Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:09 pm ]
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I would also buy a 1-1/2" socket, and a 1-5/16" socket. You will need these for the flywheel, and crank pulley bolt & cam nut.

re the flywheel puller if you want to make a STRONG one see my post in the how-to forum. :wink:
Author:  sociallydisabled [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:11 pm ]
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im gonna give it a go myself i think :) cheers mate, expect alot of qs lol

and thanks for the heads up doc, knew i would need bigger ones, didnt know the sizes ~thumbs up~
Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:49 pm ]
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Make the 1-1/2" socket a deep one, you can then use it on the balljoints too.
Note these sockets are both 3/4 drive so you will need an adaptor... or a 3/4 drive breaker bar. Adaptor best as the torque wrench will fit it.
Author:  sociallydisabled [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:51 pm ]
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3/4 impact driver do? :P my tourque wrench is 3/4 too :) is there any think i should undo by hand, instead of going gun ho with the impacty?
Author:  1310/71 [ Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:21 pm ]
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sociallydisabled wrote:
3/4 impact driver do? :P my tourque wrench is 3/4 too :) is there any think i should undo by hand, instead of going gun ho with the impacty?


yeah, leave the compressor switched off and the gun in the cupboard tiger. :wink:
Author:  sociallydisabled [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:20 am ]
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haha ok 8) ill listen!
Author:  DOZ [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:50 am ]
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Undo the cam nut and front pulley nut before you take off the flywheel

Daniel
Author:  sociallydisabled [ Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:04 pm ]
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Thats what i like to hear :) tips! am i getting in over my head though? i stripped down an 850 block...it was pretty simple....but i wasnt too careful with that cos it was siezed
Author:  richarde [ Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:45 am ]
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You may already know about this, but my tip is to keep all wearing parts in the right order. Mark all cam followers (or put them in marked bags) so they go back in the same bore. Mark all valves and pushrods (push them through a piece of cardboard and write the number on it). Mark conrods and ensure rod caps are put back on in the same orientation they came off.

Generally all of these parts have worn together - for example, cam followers will have worn until they sit nicely on the cam lobe they are on, and fit nicely in the bore they are in. If you swap them they will have to wear together again and will wear faster until they are properly bedded in again.

When I am disassembling anything I generally look at each part carefully as I take it off to ensure that there is only one way that I can put it back on. If there is more than one (I think the middle transfer gear is like this?) then I mark it or write notes to ensure it goes back together the way it came apart.

As mickmini said, label bolts/nuts as well, or thread them back into their holes or onto their studs so they don't get messed up. I didn't do this on the first Mini engine I rebuilt (with a couple of other people) and it took us several hours to sort them all out again.

Extra bolts/nuts aren't too bad - to quote my Dad "Its not worth doing a job if you aren't going to get anything out of it" :lol:
Author:  sociallydisabled [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:00 pm ]
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doesnt sound too hard :) dunno what all the parts are but i guess ill find out :D and ill get to learn some stuff along the way, which is a great thing :) today i start :D pictures tonight :)
Author:  sociallydisabled [ Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:46 pm ]
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okay well so far so good, just gotta sort out a flywheel puller, i noticed a few things in my travels...

found this:
Image

thats gotta be good yes?

and my rockers are different compared to my other car they are solid instead of 2 piece kinda jobbies... pics show difference.... just wanna know if they are anything special

(pics come later run out of time lol)
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