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(in my rear view mirror)

Spaceboy wrote:

(in my rear view mirror)

How about we keep our opinions to ourselves about speed until yours can stop breaking things, yeah? Nathan is running 12psi, and its nuts as it is.

Nathan is putting in a huge effort here and i don't think you need to bag him just yet. At least wait until its done, and you HAVE beaten him around the track before you go slagging him off.

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Nice work Nath, i'm always impressed by projects that don't follow the 'standard' route like everyone else. 10 points for effort. :wink:

(in my rear view mirror)

Gaf, he`s using a crank angle sensor to trigger the computer to let it know when each cyl requires to fire the spark , by the looks of it that crank angle sensor is inside the distributor & it tells the computer (through low tension wires) when to fire the coils,,, so there`s no need for a conventional dist cap or rotor anymore... Those 4x seperate coils do the job for each plug

Author:	Slo998 [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:11 pm ]
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Hi all, first time posting after reading for a couple of years I will post pics and full details of my bulid over the next couple of days, but just as a hint to why its going to b a slo998 : it involves a SC12, a Swiftune camshaft, an A+ 12g940 head with swiftune valves, ATB diff, a Haltech E8 ECU, four coils and lots more cool stuff. It is running atm with some of the things listed the rest is in a box waiting on little things or the time to put it in. I am trying to work out atm about the new head, i want to put the 1275 head on but need to sort a couple of things out. The main problem i have is working out the size of the chambers, I want around 8.5:1 comp. I have a std bore 998 with a+ flat-top pistons. I think they wolud need to be around the 26cc mark? The next problem is pocketing the block, the head has 36mm inlets and 30mm EX valves. Do i just flow the 998 head gasket line on the block and go 2.5mm deep? Then run a 1275 head gasket or is there a lot more to it? Thanx Nathan.

Author:	Mokesta [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:47 pm ]
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Welcome! I think we had an Adelaide guy with your ID as his number plates. Went off & bought a family car for some reason. Let us know how the injection goes. I chickened out on an injection project when it got too hard. M

Author:	Slo998 [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:15 pm ]
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Yes that was willy, i know him well The injection side of things is getting to a fun stage now with just about everything ready to go on But it has been a hard thing to get right! The Haltech is very nice to work with and if any ECU will get it running proply then im sure it will be it. The best part is that that is only a part of what it will be controling Nathan.

Author:	sox61 [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:26 pm ]
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Maybe after all these additions you'll be able to keep up with that slo 850 that I've heard some top sparky has.. Seriously though, that sparky has his block bored 0.040" and runs a RE13T, and the block pocketing is quite a bit deeper than 2.5mm. I'd be checking lift and clearance with your cam and head combo and go from there.

Author:	Beanie [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:54 pm ]
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Glad to see you finally made it nathan ... and welcome Now get this bloody thing running so you can come and lap at the sametimes as me How much is that other block of yours pockeded... i vote to just take big chunks out of the block within reason of course how much lift do you have ??? Beanie

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Author:	drmini in aust [ Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:58 am ]
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re the head pocketing depth- you need to measure from the exhaust valve heads to head face, take away the total valve lift, add the gasket thickness, then see what the result is. Cut the pockets deep enough to allow at least 1.0mm clearance between valve and block at full lift. Check with plasticine before engine assembly. BTW I reckon your valves are too big for a 998, I would have used 33mm/29.4mm ones....

Author:	92 [ Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:22 pm ]
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Hi Nath Your pocket should only be the depth required as the Doc says if too deep the top piston ring will end up going into it and that is not good. When I pocketed my block I marked out using a 998 head gasket in the valve area then fitted a 1275 gasket just make sure you don't cut outside of the fire ring otherwise it will never hold a head gasket. Probably a good idea to check by placing a 1275 gasket on before cutting.

Author:	Slo998 [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:02 am ]
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Regarding valve size, I can see your point for a N/A 998, but with forced induction intake air velocity shouldn't be too much of an issue---so the bigger the better Thanks for the advice about pocketing, I'll have to do some measurements. Still need to work out how to calculate the chamber size to get down to around 8.5:1 so I can get the head finished and on the car Here are some photos of bits and pieces for the build. Engine bay with throttle body, injection manifold, supercharger, cam angle sensor and coils fitted (coil per cylinder). A+ 998 head with mild porting on atm. The 12G940 head, with the new valves, two (double) valve springs, retainer and collet. Bronze guides like the one shown have been installed for the inlet valves, while the exhaust guides were k-lined. Comparison of new and old valves. 21-4N stainless steel from Swiftune. Note the narrowed stem near the head of the intake valve. Throttle body from 2.0L JE camira, with TPS and IAC. Injection manifold with 3 injector bosses. 3x550 cc/min RX7 injectors will be fitted. Injection will be staged sequential controlled by the Haltech E8. I'll upload some photos of the rest of the setup soon. Nathan

Author:	mattsmadmini [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:12 am ]
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snap! ill be keeping an eye on this one.... great work mate, keep it coming!

Author:	gafmo [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:08 am ]
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very interesting must say I'll be watching the progress also. Whats witht the coils attahced to the sparkplugs and the dizzy blanked off camira

Author:	Spaceboy [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:49 am ]
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good to see you posted some stuff up, i'm looking forward to seeing your car in action (in my rear view mirror). and i'll be sending my box in for repairs soon...

Author:	TheMiniMan [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:49 am ]
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Gaf, he`s using a crank angle sensor to trigger the computer to let it know when each cyl requires to fire the spark , by the looks of it that crank angle sensor is inside the distributor & it tells the computer (through low tension wires) when to fire the coils,,, so there`s no need for a conventional dist cap or rotor anymore... Those 4x seperate coils do the job for each plug I`m using a similar set up on my Bimmer Twinkys but i`m using what`s called "Coil over ignitors" ontop of each plug, so i don`t have any high tension leads at all--> You should just be able to see the coil over ignitors in the valley of the cam cover, each plug has it`s own coil.

Author:	Stuwey [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:58 am ]
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Spaceboy wrote: (in my rear view mirror) How about we keep our opinions to ourselves about speed until yours can stop breaking things, yeah? Nathan is running 12psi, and its nuts as it is. Nathan is putting in a huge effort here and i don't think you need to bag him just yet. At least wait until its done, and you HAVE beaten him around the track before you go slagging him off. Nice work Nath, i'm always impressed by projects that don't follow the 'standard' route like everyone else. 10 points for effort.

Author:	simon k [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:35 pm ]
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Stuwey wrote: Spaceboy wrote: (in my rear view mirror) How about we keep our opinions to ourselves about speed until yours can stop breaking things, yeah? Nathan is running 12psi, and its nuts as it is. Nathan is putting in a huge effort here and i don't think you need to bag him just yet. At least wait until its done, and you HAVE beaten him around the track before you go slagging him off. Nice work Nath, i'm always impressed by projects that don't follow the 'standard' route like everyone else. 10 points for effort. I think Ryan was just going for friendly banter with that comment... let it slide - Ryan, you too nice work Nathan, very cool

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Author:	Slo998 [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:28 pm ]
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Spaceboy wrote: (in my rear view mirror) I sure hope so, considering Spaceboy has a 1360 bigblock compared to my 'small' 998! Nothing worse than a broken box though TheMiniMan wrote: Gaf, he`s using a crank angle sensor to trigger the computer to let it know when each cyl requires to fire the spark , by the looks of it that crank angle sensor is inside the distributor & it tells the computer (through low tension wires) when to fire the coils,,, so there`s no need for a conventional dist cap or rotor anymore... Those 4x seperate coils do the job for each plug Spot on MiniMan. Its a modified Toyota distributor, with a blanking cover. I'll post up some pics of the inside when I next take it out.