ah hmm so I guess best to roll with drum brakes get rego then conversons
likewise with the engine - rego b4 putting turbo on hey lol.
If i were to put Cooper Discs on thou, I wouldn;'t need engineer cert then woudl I?
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| Author: | Kampf [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:16 am ] |
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Hi, I've heard you can put Camira brakes onto a mini without too much trouble? Anybody done this before? If so, have any tips how to go about it? |
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| Author: | sports850 [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:22 am ] |
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Can't find anything about the Camira ones at present though a few people have done them , this is Hanra's thread about using Honda disc's . http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28609 Remember , to be legal they will need to be certified by an engineer . |
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| Author: | Kampf [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:25 am ] |
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ah hmm so I guess best to roll with drum brakes get rego then conversons likewise with the engine - rego b4 putting turbo on hey lol.
If i were to put Cooper Discs on thou, I wouldn;'t need engineer cert then woudl I? |
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| Author: | sports850 [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:29 am ] |
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No , cooper and cooper s discs were standard fitment so they don't need engineering , only if you change something from standard . There really isn't a cheaper way of getting disc's on a mini if that's what you're looking at . |
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| Author: | awdmoke [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:31 am ] |
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Upgrading to original equipment as fitted by the manufacturer on that model does not require engineering, Cooper S brakes are a straight swap. I finally got my camira brake set, played around with them last night. These are BIG vented discs, for high power applications. As I'll be fitting it to my hill climb car I don't need an engineer's approval. |
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| Author: | awdmoke [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:33 am ] |
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The Fiesta conversion sounds great - can still run 10" rims http://www.drjing.com/Mini/TechFiles/FiestaBrakes.htm |
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| Author: | Kampf [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:39 am ] |
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Hmm well i'm going to be running a 1330 with either a T2/T3 turbo. Looking at somewhere around the 160hp mark. Will be used mainly road driving so just trying to work which brakes are best when take into consideration performance:price. |
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| Author: | sports850 [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:43 am ] |
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What are the restrictions , do you want to run 10" or 13" wheels ? Have a look through the conversions section and see what people are running there as they are stopping some seriously fast mini's . Camira or Honda brakes may well suit your application but discuss them with an engineer before you start on them and make sure you build them to what they ask for rather than doing all the work and then having to redo something because they aren't happy with them . |
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| Author: | Kampf [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:48 am ] |
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Yeah good idea sports. I'll be running 13's so there will be plenty room avaliable to fit most brakes. |
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| Author: | awdmoke [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:50 am ] |
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If you were going to get your turbo setup engineered (but I'd go the sneaky way), then your engineer will want vented discs. That means using converted Metro/honda/camira/fiesta parts & you'd be getting engineering approval anyway. |
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| Author: | Kampf [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:13 am ] |
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I'm tempted to just do it the sneaky way to brakes and turbo lol |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:39 pm ] |
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I've only seen one Camira set on a Mini, they had mounted the caliper by welding a plate onto the swivel hub. 
This is VERY BAD PRACTICE- the swivel hubs are NOT steel, they are cast iron. Welding them (apart from being illegal under ADR rules these days) is likely to cause them to distort their bores, and crack under load. Cast iron is brittle stuff. At least the Honda conversions have the caliper bracket BOLTED onto the existing hub holes. The Fiesta conversion I believe needs disc swivel hubs, you might as well go use proper S or 8.4 calipers instead. Note I have studiously avoided using the b r a k e word, who is the funny mod who fiddled the forum, obviously he cannot spell for crap. 
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| Author: | gafmo [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:08 pm ] |
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b rake yep someone has and also included most of the normal ones also  I think its to P someone
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| Author: | Rookiepilot [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:47 pm ] |
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Len Read from Vic wrote an article back a while ago (1989?) complete with pictures on how to fit Camira brakes to a mini. I have the article stashed in a box somewhere. If I remember it used Morris 1100 drive flanges, drum brake hubs, commodore calipers, and a flat adapter plate Bolted to mount the calipers. No welding required. Len had it fitted to his 8 port turbochaged Supermini. |
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| Author: | EST-071 [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:56 pm ] |
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Give these guys a call, they do the Camira conversion. Cheers Pete Truckstuff (Dont let the name fool you - Mini Repairs & Wrecking, also break and Electronic Ignition Conversions) 2 Roseberry St Merrylands Phone Alan (02) 9681 5122 |
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