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If you are serious about your racing career you need to forget about fancy road cars as they are a distraction from your goal.
You need to focus your time and cash on whatever you are racing this year as your number 1 priority.

Keep the BMW as it is a good car for relaxing trips to the interstate circuits, forget anything else.

Its true. My brother had a stock VL commodore turbo, with 140kw according to the dyno. Mr Plod booked him for driving a turbo car under the new laws, yet hes allowed to drive my v6 stock magna with 140kw (that incidently has better take off than his VL) with less weight in the magna than the VL. If I was a p plater I wouldn't bother turbo'ing as the last thing you want is to lose your license or have your mini impounded.
Just my 2c

The P plate rules are stupid but you only have to obey them for a little while and then you can forget all about them (provided you make it of your P plates!)
In NSW all V8 or Turbo powered cars are on the banned list for P plate drivers no matter how big or small the engine is.

I did my P plates in a Morris 1100S and never thought of getting a more powerful car till later on. You have a lot of driving ahead of you so start small and build up, you have plenty of time for bigger engined cars provided you live past your P plates.

Morris 1100 wrote:

In NSW all V8 or Turbo powered cars are on the banned list for P plate drivers no matter how big or small the engine is.

Does that mean that in NSW you can't drive a Rover P5B on P plates?

Author:	meeni [ Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:47 pm ]
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i havnt done a search because im lazy but i dont think this has been asked before... under the current laws in victoria p platers arent allowed to drive high powered or forced ind vehicles... so they have to get by wrapping there excels around polls... my question is.. me being a red p plater.. could i supercharge or turbo the mini and get an exemption for some kind of bull sh*t reason? has anyone done this and got away with it.. if not il make do with the less power because i dont want to go to extremes to achieve it... anyone have an ideat

Author:	mattsmadmini [ Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:54 pm ]
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there are plenty of reasons you can use, the ol' Its the only car available to me at the time, its an awsome mini-i dont need to justify! usually with the exemptions they'll let you drive via power2weight (correct me if im wrong!) where if its a heavy car with a turbo then there arent any problems (my little cuz just got his reds and wrote into the RTA saying the only car they have is a 1.8L turbo audi, got the reply a week later, no worries.) but with a turbo or charger, it aint worth it.... you make the car as fast as you want N/A, and would probably work out for the best in the long run...

Author:	meeni [ Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:55 pm ]
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ok mate thanks, as i said its not a major want for me.. cheers for the info

Author:	clubmn [ Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:50 pm ]
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how powerfull does a car have to be to be identified as 'too powerfull' and bellow the law, what policeman will say mate i think your mini is putting out over 150BHP.. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IS IT.. You will be right,

Author:	TUCK3r [ Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:46 pm ]
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id be careful insurance will be void if your not allowed to drive forced induction,and you have a accident.

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Author:	Morris 1100 [ Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:37 pm ]
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If you are serious about your racing career you need to forget about fancy road cars as they are a distraction from your goal. You need to focus your time and cash on whatever you are racing this year as your number 1 priority. Keep the BMW as it is a good car for relaxing trips to the interstate circuits, forget anything else.

Author:	1310/71 [ Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:04 pm ]
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Morris 1100 wrote: If you are serious about your racing career you need to forget about fancy road cars as they are a distraction from your goal. You need to focus your time and cash on whatever you are racing this year as your number 1 priority. Keep the BMW as it is a good car for relaxing trips to the interstate circuits, forget anything else. A serious, commonsense reply from Morris? Has ausmini had another crash? - are we in a parallel universe? I agree - the BMW will do fine. James Hunt used to drive around in a Morris 1000 traveller.

Author:	rehab1964 [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:13 am ]
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my son goes for his P's next month, my understanding is that ALL petrol engine turbos are a no no for P platers without speical permission but that special permission is pretty much a rubber stamp job anyway

Author:	niceboy1275 [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:25 am ]
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Its true. My brother had a stock VL commodore turbo, with 140kw according to the dyno. Mr Plod booked him for driving a turbo car under the new laws, yet hes allowed to drive my v6 stock magna with 140kw (that incidently has better take off than his VL) with less weight in the magna than the VL. If I was a p plater I wouldn't bother turbo'ing as the last thing you want is to lose your license or have your mini impounded. Just my 2c

Author:	Morris 1100 [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:46 pm ]
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The P plate rules are stupid but you only have to obey them for a little while and then you can forget all about them (provided you make it of your P plates!) In NSW all V8 or Turbo powered cars are on the banned list for P plate drivers no matter how big or small the engine is. I did my P plates in a Morris 1100S and never thought of getting a more powerful car till later on. You have a lot of driving ahead of you so start small and build up, you have plenty of time for bigger engined cars provided you live past your P plates.

Author:	EAB [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:14 pm ]
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niceboy1275 wrote: Its true. My brother had a stock VL commodore turbo, with 140kw according to the dyno. Mr Plod booked him for driving a turbo car under the new laws, yet hes allowed to drive my v6 stock magna with 140kw (that incidently has better take off than his VL) with less weight in the magna than the VL. If I was a p plater I wouldn't bother turbo'ing as the last thing you want is to lose your license or have your mini impounded. Just my 2c my brothers friend also has the VLturbo and had to take the turbo off it. (brought it before the rules came in but didnt get his license till after). rules are no turbo's, no v8's, no performance modifications (exhaust, porting etc) suspension and brakes you can do and you can do any visual mod. anything that changes the engines power output is a no. obviously in a mini there is a fair bit that cops wont know about, and any cop that doe know about mini's is probably going to let you off. my car hits 98db exhaust and the cops have pulled me over for it and let me go again just cause they loved the car. so extractors, headwork, carby are things you can probably get away with, but a turbo is a definate no. ( you may be able to get an exemption but i'd just wait till your off your p's then go to town on it, or make sure you can before you start getting parts for it) please note i'm not encouraging you to do anything illegal just telling you what has already been done.

Author:	slinkey inc [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:29 pm ]
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Morris 1100 wrote: The P plate rules are stupid but you only have to obey them for a little while and then you can forget all about them (provided you make it of your P plates!) In NSW all V8 or Turbo powered cars are on the banned list for P plate drivers no matter how big or small the engine is. I did my P plates in a Morris 1100S and never thought of getting a more powerful car till later on. You have a lot of driving ahead of you so start small and build up, you have plenty of time for bigger engined cars provided you live past your P plates. Does that mean that in NSW you can't drive a Rover P5B on P plates? Interestingly, when I got my P's, my dad's insurance company wouldn't give insurance to me for his Land Rover because it was 'turbo'. After a few more phones calls, speaking to people higher up the ladder it was ok'd. I think the V8 Land Rover was OK to them, but for some reason "turbo" made them funny about it.

Author:	Morris 1100 [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:41 pm ]
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slinkey inc wrote: Morris 1100 wrote: In NSW all V8 or Turbo powered cars are on the banned list for P plate drivers no matter how big or small the engine is. Does that mean that in NSW you can't drive a Rover P5B on P plates? Yep. You can't drive a high powered Simca Vedette either.

Author:	rehab1964 [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:59 pm ]
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Vic previously had power to weight ratio calculation which made way more sense to me, you could have say a 253 in a Torana but not a 350, so a turbo a sereis would be ok but perhaps not a n/a starlet motor (if the power was higher)

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Author:	mattsmadmini [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:06 pm ]
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just go out and buy a non-turbo porsche