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Author:  Fat Boy Dave [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Supercharger sizing
Sizing Superchargers for the A series. All the books and the web talk about correctly matching a supercharger to the engine. Yet I am unable to find anywhere how you do it. Is it based on engine displacement or cylinder head flow or just what will fit under the bonnet?

So far I have seen on an A Series
Autorotor or Link kit (40cc of air per rotation) using a Lystrom supercharger

SC12 kits and SC14 chargers positive displacement roots-type superchargers fitted to the 4A-GZE. See here:
http://autospeed.com/cms/title_The-4AGE-Guide/A_2733/article.html

The Bini Eaton M45 superchargers. When fitted to the Bini
It turns 2.06 times engine speed, (which works out to 14317 rpm at the 6950 rpm rev limiter.) Done by a number of tuners such as VMAX, SC Components and others.

Costs aside, Which one is best for A series 1275?
Author:  Mokesta [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:41 pm ]
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For positive displacement it is really easy:

Step 1 work out the displacement of your engine eg 1.275 l

Step 2 find out the displacement of your supercharger eg 0.6 l per rev

Step 3 Decide how much boost you want say 7 pound (= 0.5 bar)

Step 4 work out speed ratio:
To get 7 pounds your charger needs to flow 1.5 x the amount of air your engine does. Remember your engine is a 4 stroke so it pumps 1.275 l per 2 revolutions, or 0.6375 l per rev. So, 1.5x0.6375 = 0.95625 is what the SC must put out per crank rev. Divide this by SC capacity 0.95623 / 0.6 = 1.59. This means the speed ratio you need is 1.59.

Step 4 Check for over-revving.
Peak engine speed = 6500 rpm say. Drive ratio = 1.59. So SC speed = 10335. Check that this is less than peak speed.

Shazam. You're done.

You can get the Eaton M45 data from the web. That's what is on a BINI.

EDIT: Flow ratios: 7 lb = 1/2 and atmosphere = 0.5 Bar over the top of the 14 pounts of 1 atmosphere that is at sea level.
If you want 14 lb of boost you need 2 atmospheres so a flow ratio of 2. etc.


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Author:  Mokesta [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:48 pm ]
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An M45 is a big and heavy charger for a 1300. It is perfect for a 1600. It is out of it's peak efficiency on an 1800.

M45, SC12 and SC14 are not very efficient so they heat up the air too much for how much boost they make. But Meh... I've got an M45 on my MX-5 and it gives 35% more power from idle to red line at just 5 lb of boost without an intercooler.

Newer Eatons are much more efficient but they are only available in the BIG sizes so far. Great for your Walkinshaw Commodore but not your mini just yet.

Screw compressors are more efficient than these simple Roots types but $$.

I reckon an SC12 is the right cost, weight and displacement for most minis. Adding the availability of Ben's kit and why bother with anything else??

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Author:  Fat Boy Dave [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:09 pm ]
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I know these things have a peak operating speed but do they have a recomended operating speed?
Author:  Mokesta [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:11 pm ]
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If you look at the performance curve for an M45 you'll see there is a speed at which it runs at peak efficiency (speed and boost). You should aim for there but really, as long as you don't overspeed it, and you won't on a 1300, you're laughing.
Author:  WasabiPimpNinja [ Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:50 pm ]
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If anyone is interested in web hosting it, I have an Excel sheet with all the correct calculations in it so you can just plumb in your capacities etc and it will give you the projected boost (based on 100% volumetric efficiency) and pulley sizes, CFM etc.

It's just a basic little equation but we use it all the time for working stuff out on the burnout car.
Author:  EAB [ Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:29 am ]
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theres also the amr300 and amr500 chargers that would work
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