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Author:	sgc [ Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:23 pm ]
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I've got a bit of a soft spot for diesels in small cars, and got to thinking. What makes a good diesel engine? * Cast iron block, to survive high diesel compression * Long stroke for lots of torque * Two valves per cylinder, again for torque * Forged pistons, conrods, crank * Probably other things I've not considered Mad thought: the 1098 A-series seems to fit the bill pretty well. It's well undersquare, strong, generally underrated. Why couldn't it be converted to diesel? * Remove the spark plugs and you've got 4 convenient ports for injectors. * Bolt on a turbo * Install a fuel pump, common rail and injectors from a small European diesel * The engine management system from any modern 4-cyl diesel should be adaptable * The old 5-port cylinder head is no longer an impediment to engine management, since the intake ports suck fresh air only with direct injection. The only thing I can think of which would be troublesome would be the compression ratio. Would a smallbore cylinder head be able to cope with diesel-level compression ratios? I assume the pistons in a diesel need extra compression rings? Now I know BMC did a diesel A-series way back when, it was fitted to a Leyland tractor. Why couldn't a Mini engine be converted? Discuss.

Author:	drmini in aust [ Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:28 pm ]
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Waste of time IMO, if starting with an A series block and a 3 bearing crank. The 948cc BMC diesel made a whole 16HP at crank... C/R was 23.6:1. Head was totally different, with indirect injection. I'd say just add a turbo and you'd blow it (up). Conrods in this thing were heaps stronger than 1098 ones. in the pics they look much like S rods. More info here- http://www.austinmemories.com/page44/page44.html (scroll down) Here's the link to the workshop manual... http://www.instruction-manuals.co.uk/ca ... CminiT.htm

Author:	simon k [ Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:12 pm ]
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I'd love to see a tractor head on an 850...

Author:	jamie85063 [ Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:26 pm ]
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I think turning an a type into a diesel with modern injection systems could be quite interesting. Most modern diesels run much lower compression then they used to i think its around 17-18 to 1 cr these days.with the much finer control of injection more power and better economy should be had then the 16hp of the old 948cc diesel.

Author:	sgc [ Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:36 pm ]
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jamie85063 wrote: I think turning an a type into a diesel with modern injection systems could be quite interesting. Most modern diesels run much lower compression then they used to i think its around 17-18 to 1 cr these days.with the much finer control of injection more power and better economy should be had then the 16hp of the old 948cc diesel. That's what I was thinking. I wouldn't expect big HP numbers anyway, it wouldn't get a rev. It should make impressive torque though, especially with a couple of pounds of boost.. and that's what you feel on the road in any case. So Doc, you reckon 1098 rods wouldn't be up to the job? How do you think the crank would cope? I've been thinking I'd like to do something a bit different with the engine in the van.. I think a diesel A-series would fit the bill

Author:	sgc [ Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:37 pm ]
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simon k wrote: I'd love to see a tractor head on an 850... What did BMC do differently with the head they put on the tractor?

Author:	Super-mini [ Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:40 pm ]
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im sorry i have nothing constructive to add about diseasels a bmc mini tractor would be great tho

Author:	Angusdog [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:26 am ]
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The major disadvantage would be fuel economy. It would be so great you'd forget where to fill it up...

Author:	Blokeinamoke [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:32 am ]
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Super-mini wrote: im sorry i have nothing constructive to add I reckon you got that one right

Author:	poeee [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:40 am ]
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Ever since I saw a Morry Minor converted to diesel with the tractor head (and turbo) I wanted to do a Mini.

Author:	sgc [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:44 am ]
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OK, so what's special about this tractor head?

Author:	mattsmadmini [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:52 am ]
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either find an old a series diesel or the bigger, much more powerful b series...

Author:	sgc [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:08 am ]
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mattsmadmini wrote: either find an old a series diesel or the bigger, much more powerful b series... Now where would be the fun in that!?

Author:	simon k [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:18 am ]
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poeee wrote: Ever since I saw a Morry Minor converted to diesel with the tractor head (and turbo) I wanted to do a Mini. found 'em it was the whole tractor motor (note the big housing under the manifolds) - runs on biodiesel (not that it makes any difference), the whole of the underside of the rear is the fuel tank, apparently gets 5000k's or something silly on one fill. No power whatsoever, but who cares

Author:	awdmoke [ Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:51 am ]
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Looks factory original, apart from the turbo and garden hose. I could just imagine being stuck behind that thing going up a long hill, as it belched black smoke that smells like a fish'n'chip shop fire.

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