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Author:  69cooper [ Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  GR Piston Ring gap

Gents, looking for advice on best ring gap for 73.5 GR race pistons,

I am using Total Seal Gapless top ring set, which contrary to the name require ring gap clearance set.



Thanks in advance

Mal

Author:  drmini in aust [ Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GR Piston Ring gap

We recently tried one of Graham's 72.5mm Nippon top rings in a fresh bore, gap was .008".

Author:  mini_mad_matt [ Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GR Piston Ring gap

So is 8thou the best ring gap or is that just what you are stuck with unless you want to make it bigger?

Also Mal, i admit to being curious about the total seal gapless rings after seeing an advert for them, as to how they are gapless. Are they just standard design?
Perhaps it's worth contacting them about what they recommend for the gap if they are a different design to normal.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GR Piston Ring gap

I would not like the gap to be less than .008" on a 1275's top ring. You need to allow for expansion when HOT.
Hastings top ones typically are .013"- .014".

[edit] I was not sure how so-called`gapless' rings work, however after reading this blog, it is clear one type works similar to the `Cord' brand rings used for re-ring rebuilds back in the 50s and 60s.
They do in fact have a normal gap, but there are 2 narrow section rings in the one groove, with their 2 gaps staggered.

A second type, Total Seal have the ends notched (only 1 ring in the groove) so the gap is Z shaped when assembled.

https://www.highpowermedia.com/blog/307 ... pless-ring

also see
http://performanceforums.com/forums/arc ... 39283.html

http://015ef8d.netsolhost.com/TechPage. ... sPistRings

Author:  69cooper [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: GR Piston Ring gap

Matt , as doc has described they have two top rings in the one groove , main ring with a smaller ring that sits in a groove, with ends opposing they give a 100% seal, I will be back home tomorrow I will take some pictures.

I purchased rings from Calver Special Tuning in UK, I have asked for his advice on gap as well.

Thanks for your advice doc, I think 8 thou will do the trick

Mal

Author:  69cooper [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: GR Piston Ring gap

Keith Calver has recommended that I stick with clearance as stated in the blurb that comes with the rings , 0.0065" for the top ring and rail, and 0.0055" for the second ring, he has never had any issues.

M :-)

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