I am reluctant to get into this because I am on the Committe of the ACT Mini Car Club, however, our club has no restrictions on people with modified Minis. Of more importance is the way individuals conduct themselves when out with the club.

I do not understand what issue the NSW Mini CC has with modifications. As stated before, it has been going on before Minis were invented when the old A Series were used in Formula Junior etc etc ad nauseum.

Concessional rego is another thing - this is a privelege granted to Car Clubs to allow cars of Historical age to be exercised on a regular basis. Therefore, there is a responsibility placed on the CRS Registrar to use common sense when applying the spirit of the CRS scheme.

Don't see the logic of putting modified cars back to standard just to limit your use of the car under the Concessional Registration Scheme. If you have a modified car, surely you want to use it? I can't speak for our current registrar but he does have a practical attitude to CRS. If the car is largely standard or has "period modifications" (eg Twin Carbs) then it probably will qualify for CRS. One thing the club does ask is that the car be complete (including paint job) and not be a "work in progress" as this is also not in the spirit of CRS.

As I understand it, the NSW Mini CC has many members who have nothing to do with Minis - just join for the opportunity to do Motorsport related stuff because the club is CAMS affiliated. So why turn away people with Mini's?

My advice to anyone on AUSMINI is to join the club and try and bring about change from within or if you are that keen, start your own club. Now there's a challenge - lots of hard work for little thanks!!

I sincerely hope all this anti-NSW Mini CC stuff sorts itself out.

after all.......Minis Rule!!.....thats the bottom line

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"Show me the Mini!"

I hope my post isn't taken as "Anti MCC"! I like the club, i guess it is me that has a problem, as it is me that feels uncomfortable to join the club and bring my car along etc...

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Lillee - 1969 Morris Mini K

Ok, here goes, as a member of the committee, being the webmaster, i have a fairly good idea of what goes on behind closed doors. As far as the committee is concerned there is absolutly no issue with modified mini's. There a number of modified mini's that attend events, some more often than others. you have all heard of the trubo clubby that took out honours at the qld muster, the supercharged mini van at gannons park last weekend. the Moke that is paint with sparkle paint. They all come along to various events. I guess what i am trying to say is that from the committee point of view there is no issue. Having said that, there are members of the club, that have and will tell you all about how it isn't original. they can't help it, that's there thing, thats what they like doing. I knwo these people and once you get to know them you just ignore there comments and tell shut up, it ain't supposed to be ya fool! yes i have told them this, but i got to know them. they leave you alone about your car after that and you all get along just fine. I think age has alot to do with some of these issues, there are a number of you that are from a younger generation that have just discovered mini's and like to modify them, great! Don't be scared of the big bad old people, just come along! I know doc that you have had issues in the past, but perhaps if you were to come along a few of the younger guys would have someone to chat to. 68 deluxe, don't be scared to show your car, it's great, it is better than some of them that cruise along with the club. i don't care, and neither does 95% of the people. it's about mini's, not who's willy is better than yours... it happens but just ignore it. There are plenty of you on here, just come, ALL of you come and then you will have people you know and it won't feel so bad. Bob, i think your idea has merit and yes i think that the club would do well to have a modified meeting, that's fine. i don't think there would be a problem doing it, as long as you do it. the hardest part of running the club is it is based on people volunteering there time. If your willing the club should be happy to oblidge. Having runs for modified cars is a good idea, but how about runs for all cars that are worth turning up. i mean if you can only have a modified car that would put some of the noses out of joint. What sort of runs do you guys suggest. I can certainly advertise the run on the club site, as i am the webmaster. all i have to do is to have a date a time , inform the president and the club plate registrar, just in case a club plate car want's to tag along. You guys set it up and it will be done.

Cheers

Aaron

Hey Aaron, no offence mate because you know I am a club man, but....

At the last meeting I was at, the Club President was bagging a Mini for sale. It was an 850 that had wind up windows. She and a few others were flapping their arms up and down about this 850 that had been molested by some low life....

My point is that I felt embarrased for the guys I had dragged along to the meeting to get involved with the club.

As the Mini gets older, you are likely to see more modified ones than original. The club won't retain its young brigade if the old brigade don't chill out a bit and accept what is happening out in the Mini world.

I heard some spitefull comments at Gannons...

Anyway, in saying this, I still think the club is great and everyone should get along to a meeting and chat to fellow members. All these baggers...... i dont see any at the monthly meetings.......

I have been having a great time since joining and the reason is because I am getting involved!

No more anti comments unless you have been to a meeting recently!

Man - I've opened up a great can of worms here - but the feedback is great! Keep it coming. I will now try and answer all of the posts that have appeared since i left work!!

68delux - I know the exact feeling you are talking about!! I try and go to every event I can, but due to the condition of my car I kinda feel like I shouldn't be there. As you say, this isn't due to the people in the club "poopooing" my car, just due to the awesome standard of some of the cars coming along. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO CHANGE!!! THE CLUB IS FOR EVERYBODYp.s. mate I go to as many events as my spare time allows and your car sounds a heap better than mine!!

Iwannamini - I agree with everything you said. The club is for anybody who has an interest in minis, regardless of whether they have a concourse winning showroom spec cooper s or c rusted out oil chewing clubman or don't have a mini yet at all.

Gafmo - Exactly what I was getting at. I go to the general meetings which are good. All that is said there is necessary for the running of the club, but pretty damn boring for newbies!! I mostly go for the chinwag before and after. So I went to the enthusiasts meeting hoping for what you said - ie tech tips etc. You do get some of that there, but still a lot of general business etc. And Geezus - want a laugh? Go in there and ask some of the old guys something funny like how to do a 16V honda conversion - seriously the look would be priceless!! The Kind of meeting/forum/sub-committee (call it whatever you like) that I want to set up is to welcome all of the people that otherwise wouldn't have a place within the club. How good would it be to be able to talk all the crap (and the good stuff too!!) that we talk on this forum, but in person?

9YaTaH - I never claimed the club restricts modified minis at all - quite the opposite. I think they want anyone and everyone who like minis. I just think we need our own little forum in order to discuss our modifieds etc without upsetting the purist elements within the club. And I don't have any illusions AT ALL of messing with the club plate scene. Now i really wanna clarify a few things you mentioned. I don't want to change the club - just add another dimension and some new blood. I DEFINITELY don't want another club started - as i mentioned in a previous post this would achieve little and be counter-productive in a big way (well I think so anyway). And Finally NONE OF THIS IS MEANT TO BE ANTI - MCC IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM!!!

And finally Aaron - I didn't think the committee did have an issue with these cars, just that some of their owners feel a little out of place. I want to create a place within the club so we can get some of these people to join. How many great guys (and girls!!) are there on Ausmini with great cars that aren't in the club?? As for the old guys hassling people with non-original cars, I think it would be less of a problem if there were more of us. I can tell you from the point of view of a fairly new member turning up in a non original (and pretty crappy, but hey i'm working on it!) car, that it is pretty daunting. Have a think about the Mini's that come to the general meetings - Steve and Mikeys Dorothy, John McMeechan's 850 and a few other REALLY NICE cars - and some young bloke turns up in a rustbucket looking for friendly advice and some fellow miniacs, only to be criticised for trying. Okay so it's not always as bad as that but I just think if we had our own meetings where we could swap info, experience and help each other out, it would make the club - and the whold mini scene in NSW stronger in the long run.

And I'm not suggesting seperate cruises. NO WAY!! Like I said, I wanna see these modified beasts cruising with coopers cruising with 850's cruising with unfinished project rustbuckets! The more the merrier!!

As far as volunteering, Well I guess I'll have a go if anyone else thinks it's a good enough idea??!?! I'd really like someone to take this idea to the committee on my behalf - Aaron if you wanna help me there that'd be great. I've already spoken to Steve Eaton about it and He seemed positive about it too. I now just have to convince the rest of the committee??

I think i've done enough typing for one day - keep the feedback/suggestions coming, and most of all - KEEP ON MINI-ING!!!!

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Bob Slattery
Duffman Says A Lot of Things - OH YEAH!!

All it ever takes is for someone to organise it. I think you will have a bit of fun doing it, but the hard part is to actually motivate people to get out and do stuff. I will speak to Rae about your idea and also let her know that her comments about the for sale ad you had mentioned anton. i was going to let her know after the meeting that i thought she was out of line. The Comments you would have heard are from the stupid few that have way to much money and time. Just ignore them or tell em there comments are out of line, no use beating around the bush. Anyway i hope that some new blood will water down some of the thick congealed blood of the old guys.

Why dont you run the MCC like Ausmini

"OK now its time for Mini Chat..."

"Now its time for the Gallery..."

"Thats right you young fellas up the back...MINIMODS..."

"Now... For sale..."



Would sure beat typing..!!! And would be good to meet people.

great call dude.....

One question then, if you got an original 850, with an 850 engine from early 1960's, then had to bore it out to clean the block say... 875 or whatever, then isn't classified as Modified??? so then the population of absolutely non modified cars housing un-cut engines must be ultra rare? I've always wondered where the non-modifaction line is drawn and whether it can be relevent to older cars?

If that's the case, I wonder how many club cars are actually STRICTLY pure and non modified? ie. all cars are modified, just what degree of modification is the key right?

Sorry enough for tonight from me...

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Lillee - 1969 Morris Mini K

Of course you would want to use it but if you have a few cars on full rego and your Mini wasn't your daily driver then the club plate scheme and cheap rego looks very appealing.

Some 10 years ago my husband and I had 3 cars on full rego - our 2 daily drivers and our Mk II S. Because of the high cost of keeping all three cars on the road a decision was made to retire the S to the garage for a short while (a very sad day). 10 years later and the S is still sitting in the garage under covers (we built a house had two children etc etc). Our Cooper S is highly modified with a Garret turbo under the bonnet, lots of chrome etc,etc - we are currently exploring the idea of club plates so we can get the car back on the road which also means putting it back to standard. I'd rather leave it as is but the cheap rego and insurance is very appealing.
For those interested the S in question featured in the June 1999 issue of Mini World Magazine.

Chong, I think this is classed as `engine reconditioning'- it is necessary on all motors eventually. A normal rebore is not really modification.

But if you then port it, cam it, put a Weber on it, yada yada... it IS modified.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

OKay when is the next meeting (this friday I can make it, next Friday if So its my last day at work and I'm sure thier will be drinks after work and I'll have to miss another one)
Can we ask them to change it to Thursday I don't care for late night shopping and their is always something on Friday nights...Lol Joke

Who's up for the next meeting, Please raise you're hands and lets get the AUSmini group their. If they take the piss out of a Modmini, Talk to the hand becouse I'm not listening to you and you're old ways.

I'd love to help out on the days of runs and trackdays and see all types of mini's and there drivers have fun. I don't need to be behind the wheel.

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Stop Licking the Dog...I Don't Care Who Started It

The next meeting is the annual general meeting, this friday isn't on as the general meeting is on. This is where you can vote for your committee or even stand if you were of a mind to.
Saturday, 9th October 2004
Annual General Meeting
To be held on Saturday, 9th October 2004 in the Auditorium at West Ashfield Leagues Club
115 Liverpool Road Ashfield
All are welcome to join us for the Annual General Meeting at 4.30pm.
If you wish to join us for the Annual Dinner at 7pm at the same venue, Please book early. Bookings will close on 1st October. Buffet dinner is $36.00 per person and half price for children.If you would like to make up a table of ten please send your payment with the names of the people you would like on your table.
Bookings can be made Emailing Ron and Laurelle Adlam [email protected]

Gus Staunton Points

Can we all wear stickers with our AusMini names..??

so... 4.30 October 9th. I'll be going. Hopefully I will be driving Mo too..

Out of interest sake, are their usually signs up letting people know where to go? I went one of the previous meetings, and no one could tell me where it was being held, I saw no Minis in the parking lot, so I tihink that I went the wrong week..!!!

I think this is all bullshit, it's called the Mini Car Club of NSW, not the Original Mini car club or the Modified mini car club, it's a club for mini's!!!! Standard,concourse or modified. At the Gannon's park show we had 3 of our 4 mini's their, my wifes everyday clubman, our "restored" MK1 Cooper S and the heap of crap "Grunter" clubman, with the 1427 stroker motor, weber through the firewall, covered in dust still had it's rally tyres & numbers from the last event it run, some people loved it others hated it, same can be said for the MK1.

We are a club of people who have something in common, who cares if someone does'nt appreciate your car the way you do, be think skinned tell them it's the way you want it & get on with life.

I've been in the MCC NSW for 16 years, i've seen the Brookvale mini club & the modified mini club come & go unsuccesfully take it on board and have fun with your cars.

Doogie