Same for QLD
4 point is easy
6 point in more problems...need to mount the seats low for head clearance etc.++++padding

...and no intrusion bars

Any cage must Main roads approved and engineer certified...not that difficult.

Also CAMS would not let you compete in any motorsports with that particular alloy cage...waste of money

Minimad

_________________
You can take the boy out of the racer.........but not the racer out of the boy!

I haven't been back on track for this very reason. Last time I was competing at Oran a Cortina rolled and caught on fire (sept 04). It took a long time for the driver to get out and for rescue to arrive, I have video of this, not the actual roll.

I want a cage for two reasons,

1. to protect my back in a frontal collision. To do this you need to have a harness fitted at shoulder height to prevent crushing of the spine, the rear parcel tray is a parcel tray, not a seatbelt anchor.
2. to limit intrusion from a side on collision. My father got hit from the side back in the sixties in a mini and only survived because it was in the passenger side.

As such, I want to fit a full cage but the RTA said no, without any specific reference to anything that applies to my car. I don't want to make my car a race car only and bolt in/bolt out is never going to happen, who seriously is going to drive a car to the track with the door bars removed?!!

I want to gather some interest in getting motorsport plates, like historic rego, for cars like this. Why should I be forced to trailer my car everywhere when the only thing not 'road legal' is the cage. I don't even have a tow car and the mate that has towed me the last 3 times now lives in Tasmania.

Another point is the drift boys. At their last event at Oran the cops pulled over and defected 28 out of 30-odd competitors. This club is now worried about future entries to events. What does this mean to the general public? Less 'hoons' venting their desires within the safer confines of a racetrack will mean the return to the late night street derbys as regular as 10 years ago!!

I think CAMS should lobby the goverment to get this up.

_________________
Videos - Turbocharged A-Series on Dyno & at Wakefield
Mafs waz not my strong subgeckt at skkol

Or Maybe the Police should stop looking for the "Soft" Target.

in my experiance police are scared of things they dont understand!

_________________
speed costs....how fast do you want to go...

hey
does bonds make a 6 piont cage thats removeable, cawz i heard 4 point/ bolt in is legal, so when it round for rego or defects

_________________
any parts for a 76 clubby pm me or ring 0405 329 326

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44717

yes they do and they make a 4 point

lets us know if any one wants to get rid of a 6 point cage,bolt in,
cheers

_________________
any parts for a 76 clubby pm me or ring 0405 329 326

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44717

Don't want to sound like a smartarse but police don't make laws, our (stupid/ignorant) elected representatives do.

You can have a six point cage engineered, so long as the front legs are removable.

Obviously if you are going to a motorsport event you want to have the legs bolted in so you can get other things organised at the track, scrutineering for instance. If you have an acco on the way (unlikely, but possible) and someone in your car is injured by the front bars, your insurance won't cover you for their injuries.

This problem could be avoided by having motorsport plates allowing you to transport the car to/from club events as in historic and rally events. The insurance in this instance would still be valid should the need for compensation be sought as legally the car is elegible for road use in this manner, a very low risk.

_________________
Videos - Turbocharged A-Series on Dyno & at Wakefield
Mafs waz not my strong subgeckt at skkol

Time to move to QLD

I have a 6 point cage...road legal...and CAMS approved.(Steel)

Cops don't bother me because its engineer approved....meaning if something goes wrong with it and it kills me or someone else, they have someone else to blame

Works for me

Minimad

Ps I had a mate with a HQ 1 tonner with a blower hanging out of the bonnet about 6 "...you counldn't see for s*&t when you drove it...we got pulled up in it EVERY time we drove it and the cops would pop the bonnet...see the engineers blue plate and just tell us to take it steady (the plate was for the gearbox, but the cops didn't know what the numbers meant )

_________________
You can take the boy out of the racer.........but not the racer out of the boy!

In MANY race/road rollovers, cages do not do a whole lot, for a Mini.
The structure of it is quite strong as its pretty much shaped like a ball when you think about it.

Cage on the road = wank.
Cage on the track = requirement (in some classes).

u gotta admit willy they do add some ridgity to the shell, and stop the compacting if it is going to happen

As Meeni said.

Roll cages not only serve a protection purpose they stiffen the car which makes it a better track car. Roll cages on the road may = Wank but that reference must then also include 13" Wheels and a host of other "For Looks" items.

Most 6 point cages will to stuff all to add rigidity to the mini shell. (I used to build roll cages) You can do it but most of the ones on the market do not do it.

Yep all that has been said in this topic is valid and in line with the facts!

For the road, a roll cage isn't really going to do anything.
You aren't going to subject yourself to any dangers that a roll-cage would save your life... How many deaths on the road could have been avoided if the car had a roll cage? Not many...