Hi all.

Ive got some questions regarding getting a mini registered as a two seater.

Im currently in the midle of re doing my stereo install.
Its like what i had befoure but this time its more noticeable as theres no back seat at all this time.
im running harnescess allready and have had these checked out but my engineering mob who services the car and they are happy with it, but whats involved in getting the car registered as a two seater????

do you have to get an engeerers report just for removing the rear seat section???
or is at as easy as just going to vic roads and telling them...
will they want to see the car???
and what do they look for when they see it???

any info would be great as i would like to do the wright thing and get it done la git plus im a little worrid about the boys in blue too.

cheers .
from minifreak1..
(Brien Taylor..)

im pretty sure yo u have to get it re engineered as a 2 seater ( even though the car hasnt been structually modified) because the VIN plate states that 4 people can travel in the vehicle. a blue plate would have to be fitted by a qualified engineer to rectify the information change, ive enquired about this and have come to the conclusion that if u want a huge stereo buy a van

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have you cut out any of the rear firewall, parcel shelf, or rear seat shelf - I was in a bad accident in my cooper s in march this year, where I slid right-rear corner first into a commodore. It is incredible the amount of force that these 3 sections combined absorbed, with very little intrusion into the cabin. I would have been in real trouble if any of them had subbies or whatever installed with holes cut in them, or removed entirely as I have seen - they would have simply folded up and I reckon I would have been a lot worse off.

If you are modifying any of these parts, they've gotta be engineered, in Vic, they've recently brought in a roadworthy rule that if you've cut holes in the parcel shelf for speakers, even little ones, they've gotta be engineer approved. You can only have speakers there without approval if the holes are factory. I fully support this, and I can send you detailed pics of the damage if you want to know why!

You might guess that I'm not a fan of big ICE installs, that stuff all weighs heaps, upsets the weight distribution (more to the rear), and obviously requires mods that weaken the structure.... be very careful what you do.

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AFAIK in the ACT to register your car as a two seater, you just have to take the rear seat out, and go to the RTA and do a change of details. They will have a look to satisfy themselves that there is no longer a rear seat, and that's it. Obviously engineering will be required if you are removing the seat, to fit harnesses or a roll bar, but then they are engineering the harness/roll bar, not the seat removal itself.

Anto.

thanks for all the detail...

ill ring up vic roads and have a chat with them just to find out also.

as far as holes in the car there are none except for the rear shelf witch were there when i bourght the car.
the sterio im building requires no wholesto be cut as it uses two boxes...one for the amps and equiptment and one for the subs....all are bolted down with L brackets.

as for adding extra weight.....i dont care realy....the car was quick and still is...its still fun to drive and adding extra weight hasent realy changed the way the car drives except for my braking but you just get used to this and as im running metro turbo brakes with ap racing 4 spots braking and stopping isent an issue.

be careful because if you have holes in your rear parcel then they will require these to be welded back up upon inspection (cover the parcel shelf with thin mdf and vinyl for the inspection (what they dont know wont hurt them). they wont care if you didnt do it or if they were already there

id just take the back seat out, no coppas gunna say 'how will someone fit in there'

my brothers escort coupe had to be regoed as a two seater because he has fixed back race seats.. all that was required was that the race seats be 'engineered' which required him filling in a form and some lout at licencing to give em a jiggle to make sure they were 'safe', and of course paying the appropriate fee (beaurocratic revenue raising if you ask me.. hardly 'engineered')

but the back seat thing was just fill in a form and hand the thing in and have them inspect it to make sure it was gone (2 min job to put em back in)

Qld Rules here.

I had seats and harnesses installed in my last car, and since the harnesses came from the rear parcel shelf, I removed the back seat. Any change in approved seating positions is required to be recorded on a Modification plate(Blue Plate). So the harnesses, seats, and change in seat positions was all on the one plate.

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basically what i said about the blue plate covering the change in seating

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Yeah spot on bout the blue plate, you need to have a mod for reduction in seating capacity from 4 to 2. I needed a mod plate (blue plate) for the reduction in seating capacity/ race seats/ seat frames and mounting, and the harnesses. Always fun stuff.

how much was your blue plate m8? coz ill need to get a crap load of stuff engineered aparently

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Ah sorry dude, its not what ya know its who ya know. My plate was done on the side, its still all legal. Was all done by an accredited engineer. You scratch my back, Ill scratch yours kinda thing. If you get onto the DOT they should be able to put you onto an engineer and they can advise you of what is needed to be done to keep things legal. Each mod that gets stamped on the plate will incur a seperate cost.

ouch what sort of cash we talking?

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Think I might be wrong bout each mod requiring an additional charge. Ill hit me engineer up about pricing. Let ya know, keep in mind that this is for Qld only!!!

yeh , a rough price is all im after, thanks m8

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