okay, heres what your wheels and tyres should have

australian standard

max wheel load


max tyre load and pressure


dimensions, max tyre load again and max speed rating
my pirellis are 72V which is 355kg and 240kph

Unless they are made in the UK.

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

obviously uk wheels wont have australian standard, but there should be information like that on the wheels and tyres.

i wouldnt use anything without such markings.

You should be able to get the certification from the importer or the manufacturer though , along with the assurance that they are actually designed and manufactured for cars on the road and not quad bikes or golf buggy's .

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My issue with these wheels is quite simply, they were designed for golf buggies, & the tyres are designed for golf buggies.

They were never designed to withstand real driving forces etc. The rims themselves may actually be strong enough, but where's the testing to prove it?

What are the speed and load ratings on those tyres? I doubt they would even be close to rated for highway driving, let alone the forces exerted on the outside front wheel when cornering hard.

Now even if they were actually strong and safe enough to be used like this (doubtful imho) the fact remains that due to the width and the fact they have not been tested for cars, while originally designed for GOLF BUGGIES, means they are technically illegal and make your car unroadworthy in the eyes of the law, if not in fact.

Any accident where these are on the car can (and probably WILL) make your insurance void, including your CTP.

So, my stupid comment related to the use of potentially unsafe tyres and wheels on the road (risks lives etc), but as they instantly make your car unroadworthy {without an engineers certificate (for the width) and design specifications from the manufacturer indicating the standards met that make the rims comply, & an appropriate speed and load rating on the tyre} then you are for all intents and purposes uninsured and personally liable for ANY damages caused by your vehicle, as well as criminal prosecution.

Who'd want to do that?

They do look very, very nice, as a wheel /tyre for shows (trailered to the show) they'd be hard to beat.

I actually think they are a great looking wheel. But without the backup of having them certified as legal, i wouldn't touch them for a road car.


M

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68 Deluxe.... it's shiny..... I like shiny!!

Yes, I was just pointing out that my Miniator's aren't Aussie standards, so technically not actually legal. However, I asked many questions whilst I was getting my car roadworthy'd and certified to have a 1275. One about wheels and they said (this is just what they said, not relating to any rulkes jsut from thier mouths ) they would accept Euro and UK standards on most stuff. I passed through with my Cheviot 'jelly-beans', now I don't think they have any markings what so ever. And m,y over Performance 12x5 'hot wires' don't say too much on them appart from size and manufacture, but I think they are very old wheels.

Personally I wouldn't worry too much about legalities, and more on what the purpose of those wheels are. Old Cosmics, Dunlops or even Contessas which look great wouldn't have any markings on them, but would be road legal, because they are designed for that purpose (although the feds might take a different opinion).

I know a trailer place that sells some nice alloy wheels in Mini PCD, but I wouldn't touch them mostly becasue they say, clearly 'Trialer Use Only'.

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

It doesnt matter - if your car is road-registered, and you have a part on your car that doesnt comply with Australian Standards (and I am sure these dont comply), then your whole car is non-compliant and therefore illegal.

Moreover, if you had an accident whereby some one was injured (whether it was your fault or not) you would be both criminally and civily liable because you had non-compliant wheels on your car, and you knew about it, and you chose to use them.

Think about it - Standards are there to protect the users, and shouldnt be compromised.

My $0.02 ($0.08 NZD)

Cheers,
Tricky

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"Not Speeding Officer..........Qualifying"

A lot said about these wheels and a lot of it is assumption I'm affraid . Does anybody know for certain what they are designed for and rated at ? Were they designed for golf buggies/Quads but then drilled with a mini pcd and sold as such , or were they designed as a road wheel that people started using on golf buggy's/quad's ? The seller now refuses to answer enquiries by email (nothing in writing perhaps ???) and will only answer enquiries by phone .

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bloody hell glad i asked as i almost just went ahead and brought a set,what a shame it would have been to get to the rego place and have them say TAKE THEM OFF!and not too mention the following anger and hatred toward them,i'll have to go with more common sedate wheels for now

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Darren
00 triton d/cab
55 chev(oversize moneybox)
1963 850 (roundie)
77 clubby
95 zxr 750 + toys!!

I looked into these a few years ago, they are made AS golf buggy wheels. Can also be used on ATVs, but according to the info i was sent from the US a million emails ago, were designed as 'dress rims' for the golf buggy market. No information was ever sent regarding load limits or ratings even after several requests, so i can only assume the worst (up to them to prove they are built to a standard IMHO)http://store.bigbuggies.com/wheels.html

The tires are made AS golf buggy, atv tyres. No info on the apart from this.http://store.bigbuggies.com/lprt.html[/url]

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68 Deluxe.... it's shiny..... I like shiny!!

Well , I've found the tyre company , Innova , only been making tyres since 1995 and while they do some street legal motorbike tyres and quadbike tyres (for emergency services) the bulk of their product is for quad bikes (red or blue or green or cammo coloured tyres ...) and small dirtbikes . Here's a link to the tyres and wheels with their load ratings , depends on how many ply they are as well but I can't see that in the ebay listing . It is a bit scary how they only give the maximum load capacity at 10 MPH/16 KPH . They do say D.O.T. rated but not whether they are rated for car or golf buggy . Oh yeah , they are in the golf buggy section and it seems 4" PCD is a common golf buggy size .

http://www.achievatires.com/category.asp?level=1&FID=4

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No opinion on the wheels, but this statement is not quite true. Many parts of many minis do not comply with current Australian standards but are perfectly road legal. Legislation is generaly forward looking and new standard compliance requirments are not retrospective.
But obviously if you fit a new, non standard part to your car and it can be proven to be dangerous and non-compliant, then youre in trouble.

And that is the whole argument, we are not talking about existing original Mini's, but new replacement parts here. However, when a new Mini rolled off the showroom floor, every part was compliant for the period in which it was manufactured.

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"Not Speeding Officer..........Qualifying"

A little more awake now and I've rechecked the ebay listing , according to the tyre size (205/50-10) they are 4 ply with the max load capacity at 10mph/16kph of 302 kgs . The load rating is ok so long as you don't go over 2000 rpm in first gear only . Have you seriously used these on the street at highway speeds ? If you have , don't bother buying any lottery tickets for the next 10 years , you've already used up all your luck I'm affraid .

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maybe these are better for highway use?

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