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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:12 am 
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This is a short story written by Owen McDonald, from the BMC Heritage Group. It's a funny view on the creation of the Californian Moke prototype.

I had to read it a few times to understand it. It's quite funny actually! :lol: I can imagine how much fun they had making this prototype back in the day.....

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THE CALIFORNIAN MOKE

The Mini Moke was, as the name indicates, a Mini Minor derivative.

The Mini Minor had front and rear sub frames which contained all of the mechanical items and the suspension. The Mini body essentially held the sub frames apart and parallel.

This concept easily led to the construction of a low cost open tray with wings and front grille, no doors, no metal roof.

Not only was the piece price low the tooling cost was low as there were few parts and few of those had tooling complexity.

After some time the Moke was given larger wheels with better ground clearance and less of a toy vehicle look.

It was proposed to sell this vehicle a to dealer in California who had a market in fun vehicles at surfing beaches and after fitting Californian emission devices and some psychedelic trim and paint the vehicle was scheduled for a prototype build so that photographs could be taken

The prototype build was delayed by the LH Drive Steering rack being late from the supplier. Production found that a normal RH Drive Rack would fit the location by inverting the rack and filing the hole out a “little”? and they fitted the rack with the intention of demonstrating their initiative and skill compared with the combined skills of everyone else who could not even buy a LH Rack on time and anyway, they had demonstrated that a RH Rack fitted just as well.

As a prototype for photographs it was a little outside the control and surveillance of the quality control and product engineering.

The product engineer whose problem this was (It certainly was not his mainstream work) knew that the RH Rack fitted upside down would make the car turn left when right was anticipated, but he had “copped enough” from production to be able to look forward to their discomfiture. Others at lunch were allowed into the secret and the moment when the car was finished and driven off the track was gleefully anticipated.

In the end someone with a concern for industrial safety told the production people and face was saved by not starting the car and they pushed it for the photographic session.

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I've read something on those lines before about the racks but can't think where it was (possibly a club magazine but not sure) . I think it was the "export moke" that it relates too which was loosely called the californian moke as that was the intended market but wasn't badged as such . The deal fell through and they were sold off , be interesting though if they had of gotten to the American market , wonder how things would have changed in the beach culture and if it would be mokes in the surfie movies instead of kombi's and VW buggies ?

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Mokes did make it to the American market, but I think it was only until 1968. The Beach Boys famously had one/some that were given away by a radio station as a competition prize.

There is quite a bit of debate over where the export mokes where intended to be exported to. I've heard various places including the US and the Caribbean.

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I have read in a few different things it was the US and particularly California which explains the dual belt pulleys on the water pump for the emission controls they required at that stage that we didn't have .

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Certainly the side intrusion bars, side marker lights (parkers) and rear mounted tank were mods that were mandatory for the US market. So this is a pretty strong indicator they were designed to go there.

When the deal fell through what is more natural than to use the parts for a limited edition local model. Basically all they had to change was build them RHD instead of LHD.

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bnicho wrote:
Certainly the side intrusion bars, side marker lights (parkers) and rear mounted tank were mods that were mandatory for the US market. So this is a pretty strong indicator they were designed to go there.


Yes, the Americans do like to have cars with the fuel tank at the back (Ford Pinto?), it is more impressive when they blow up.


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Full story of the original Californian, or Export, Moke was in Issue 6 of the Mini Experience.

In a nut-shell...

An order was received for 100+ to go to Virgin Islands. VI were (are?) controlled by the US, so US laws had to be met. 1275cc with drum brakes, rear fuel tank, various other changes. Vehicle emissions had to be met and the Austin Atlantic (1275cc) was already complied, so taking the engine and all emissions stuff (air pump and charcoal cannister) from the Atlantic and putting it in the Moke made sense (economically).

When the deal fell through, many components were on hand, so the model was made available in Australia, and continued for an estimated 1,000 Mokes.

Full range of colours, features and options are listed in the magazine.

Mag still available. $12 from us, including postage in Australia.

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Oh yeah, we also had most of that story from Owen Macdonald.

And side intrusion bars??? I've think you've got your wires crossed there.

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Welcome back Watto :D

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watto wrote:
And side intrusion bars??? I've think you've got your wires crossed there.


Yeah, welcome back. While I was moving house you were enjoying the Goodwood. You Mongrel! :x

I may be wrong, but I recall there being extra right-angle strengthening in the top corner of the side boxes that I've not seen in any other Moke. I always thought this was a crude side impact beam. :?

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watto wrote:
And side intrusion bars??? :shock:


I thought the side boxes were only there to stop side intrusion and to keep the back connected to the front


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I haven't seen that in the side boxes Brett, so next time I see an Export Moke I'll take a look.

The side-box/pannier design of the Moke makes it fundamnetally strong without any extra steengthening. I've seen a Moke clobbered in the side at reasonably high speed, by a Holden wagon (HZ era I think from vague memory). Moke was pushed some distance down the road (Drummond St, Carlton) and the only damage was a bent side-box cover and slight realignment of the side-box apperture. Easily fixed. The front corner of the Holden was stoved in and the car required a bit of bush panel-beating before it was able to drive away.

It would seem unneccessary to fit added streghtening, but then again, there is no accounting for government requirements.

Former Chief Engineer from Leyland's Enfield plant, Ray Habgood, told me that when a late-model Aussie Moke was crash tested at MIRA in the UK, it was able to be pushed away from the test area on its own wheels. When it was returned to Australia it was repaired and sold as a running vehicle.

Mokes are very strong - which proved to be a down-side when crumple zones became necessary for new car designs. Mokes were not able to meet such requirements.

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My moke crumpled quite a bit in a head-on but so did I. Most of the crumpling was done by the front mudguard and wheel. The side box got about a foot shorter, but it definitely withstood a lot more than the front. I wouldn't volunteer for future Moke crash testing missions though.

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watto wrote:
Vehicle emissions had to be met and the Austin Atlantic was already complied, so taking the engine and all emissions stuff (air pump and charcoal cannister) from the Atlantic and putting it in the Moke made sense (economically).
Wow, they used the Austin Atlantic engine? At 2660cc it would be quite a performer but since the Atlantic went out of production in 1952 I don't think that they had air pump and charcoal cannister so I doubt that it was the Atlantic engine. 8)

Maybe you mean the Austin America. :lol:


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watto wrote:
Vehicle emissions had to be met and the Austin Atlantic was already complied, so taking the engine and all emissions stuff (air pump and charcoal cannister) from the Atlantic and putting it in the Moke made sense (economically).
Wow, they used the Austin Atlantic engine? At 2660cc it would be quite a performer but since the Atlantic went out of production in 1952 I don't think that they had air pump and charcoal cannister so I doubt that it was the Atlantic engine. 8)

Maybe you mean the Austin America. :lol:


Nah Atlantic!! you can bore em out, whack in Massey-Ferguson tractor pistons and get about 3 litres :lol:

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