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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:38 pm 
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henry the mini wrote:
Dident know that Sport 850 where not a "model" but some sort of "accesories pack" added by a few dealer.

Really makes it nearly impossible to prove how genuine a car is.

Is there no difference in the number, ie: on the car and on the engine, are they simply 850 number?


What morris means is they never had their own model number but were a factory approved performance version . The sports850 with the badges the same as the one you saw were only converted and sold by Peter Manton Motors in Melbourne and P and R Williams in Sydney . There was a kit produced at the same time with a round badge for the grille saying "sports850 conversion" sold by other dealers but the one you saw was not sold as a kit , only as a converted car .

They came about as Peter Manton was racing an 850 with twin carbs and being knocked back on protest as it wasn't a production model , he asked BMC for the cooper to be imported and sold here but they declined saying the cooper was "too advanced and too expensive" for Australia . Manton offered to make a performance 850 to prove there was a market for the cooper and BMC agreed so they were factory approved and covered by the factory's warranty . Because there was no seperate model number they are hard to prove tobe genuine or not genuine unless they have their full history (when you call in here Louis I'll show you the original books for mine , a friend who did his apprenticeship at P and R Williams and also converted them has verified the signatures in the service book as being the people there at the time) . The difference from a standard 850 was the twin carbs , chrome rocker cover with sticker , "sports exhaust" and optional white paint flashes front and rear . The badges are a pressed metal and not cast like most people think so that's one way to check originality .


Thanks heaps for the info. It's in my opinion the most intriging mini model. As i have never seen one before, i was quite amaze.

Thanks Ian

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Hi Louis.

If I remember (and I can get along to Wed night dinner) I'll bring a copy of Issue 3 and Issue 10 of The Mini Experience.
Issue 3 has the history of the Sports 850, and Issue 10 has a nice example (front cover car).

Both issues have now sold out, but are available on CD.

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watto wrote:
Hi Louis.

If I remember (and I can get along to Wed night dinner) I'll bring a copy of Issue 3 and Issue 10 of The Mini Experience.
Issue 3 has the history of the Sports 850, and Issue 10 has a nice example (front cover car).

Both issues have now sold out, but are available on CD.

Cheers,
Watto.


Cheers Craig but i cant make it wednesday, i ahve the copy of the nice yellow one, but i think i gave issue 3 to someone :?

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No worries.

Remind me then for next month.

Here's a rarity - usually the Geelong dinner and VMCI meeting are a week apart, but this week they are one day apart, as the third Wednesday is the day before the fourth Thursday.

That will surely confuse me.

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Anyone know much about this one? :shock:


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Morris-Mini-Sports-850-1963_W0QQitemZ140235782195QQihZ004QQcategoryZ101895QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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i was waiting for someone to post that one..... its damn nice.... 8)

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Very nice!

Anyone know the paint code for the Dark Green on the Engine?

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I'm pretty sure (99%) that it's Grant Welsh's sports850 , it spent a lot of it's life in a car museum in Albany WA and is all legit , including the mileage .

This is the article from Australian Classsic Car , October 1997 edition .

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That's the one, also featured in The Mini Experience magazine.

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Might as well put the other article up as well (the one mentioned in the Australian Classic Car article) , I won't scan and post watto's article though , anyone wants that should contact him directly .

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Only if i had a lazy 20k laying around, what a beautiful 850. So original.


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20K only starts the bidding, who knows where it will go.

Come on Ian, tell us how much it would take for you to part with the Precious. :)

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20K and reserve not met , be interesting to see what it goes for .

Speedy , the price would be me being in absolute destitution , it is the very last thing I would sell regardless of price , it's just too much fun .

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I love it.
Exhibit a:

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A standard 850 travelled 0-60 mph in 27 secs with a top speed of 72 mph


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The standard version, of course is no slouch


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i do like them with the painted bonnet and boot panel stripes


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