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 Post subject: Bus wheel horn, missing?
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:24 am 
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I got my new repro horn from the UK today....still not sure how to fit it though. One of the guys at work mentioned i'm missing a spring, does anyone have a pic of their setup?
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Will i still need the horn wire with the new setup? It have the newer style wheel on it. Now i've changed it back the original with the M in the center.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:38 am 
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Your steering coloum is missing a few bits, i'll take a pic of how the coloum should look this arvo & post a pic.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:48 am 
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That would be great, thanks mate.


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meehal wrote:
That would be great, thanks mate.


Ditto, I have the same bits and don't know what I'm missing :?


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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 12:14 pm 
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woohoo i'm not the only one :D


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Ditto - I pulled mine apart a couple of years ago - got all the bits I needed and forgotten how it looked when back together :oops:

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:11 am 
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Im waiting on a reply to this as well, hopefully Doogie can post that pic :wink:

Im pretty sure all that is missing is something to earth the horn, maybe a spring that connects the centre brass piece of the horn switch to the nut on the column?

Or mabe a strip of metal from the nut to the side of the horn switch, as the earlier versions have part of the internal spring of the switch sticking out the side (this also helps to keep the horn switch in)


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:05 pm 
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we are thinking its a tapered spring, if you look at the pic with the steering wheel there is a wear mark, so maybe the spring goes from there to the button? really in the dark on this one, don't know of any roundy's is townsville to check with.


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:20 pm 
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Hold onto your hats people, I might provide information of use for once here. :D

I have two setups here, both used the original horn push in different ways.

The bus twirler has a long clear plastic bush with a spring. A circlip holds a bullet connector on the top. When the horn button is pushed, the outer part earths on the steering wheel nut I believe.

Assembled:
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Apart (sort of):
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In my other setup, the spring is not used, and the spacer bust has been shortened to a 1/3 length. When the horn button is pushed, it is this one that contacts, not the other side.

Assembled:
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Apart:
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:27 pm 
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You may find the new repro one may need something different as well as it isnt the same as the original on the bottom....im trying to work out where the positive wire connects to and if there is supposed to be another spring underneath?

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Ahh cheers Harley, well that definately sorts mine out....it will be the top setup you posted...now just to find one of these spring pieces :wink:

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Jason , by positive wire do you mean the earth on a generator fitted mini or the non earth on an alternator fitted one ? From memory the horn button only earths the horn , the non earth wire is connected and live to the horn the whole time and by earthing the horn through the horn button it works . Just not sure if you've confused yourself or not with positive earth vehicles or not .

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Sports, positive or negative earth should be irrelevant, at the end of the day as long as the circuit is complete (wire up middle to column) then the horn will* work.

*Does not account for quality of both Lucas wiring or the horn itself.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:41 pm 
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Naa Ian, havnt confused myself....maybe :? , mine is set up as negative earth and automatically use earth as negative and non earth as positive, can hear all the sparkies screaming and pulling their hair out.....


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:56 pm 
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Yeah , just clarifying as I've seen several people get confused in the past and run two hot wires or two earth wires to the horn :lol:

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