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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:51 pm 
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When It is in the tank then it will lube the Fuel pump a bit too.

It also makes more room in the engine bay without a kit on.

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Wombat wrote:
Hey Kev - is FlashLube the same stuff that was around when we were kids that was called "Upper Cylinder Lubricant"? Used to be available in the Oil Rack at the servo's in a container that was a steel cone with a thing like a glass hypo syringe mounted horizontal on the top with a long thin nozzle about 9 inches long. You drew up a "dose" in the glass barrel then squirted it in the tank before filling. Cost about 5 cents a squirt.
Disappeared off the driveways along with the glass refillable Oil bottles.

Wombat,
You are probably thinking of Firezone, or Redex. They were just upper cylinder lubes.
Flashlube is a lead replacement additive but has upper cylinder lubricating properties too.
Good for my bronze valve guides... :P

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BP Ultimate and a squirt of Flashlube is DEFINTELY the way to go...I won't put anything else in! I bought up the idea of putting an unleaded head on my engine with my mechanic (engine rebuild soon!), he says its a waste of time hardening the valves and seats when you can just use the squirt.

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Oirdinary ULP isn't as bad as it used to be, but if you're running anything with a decent compression ratio, stick with premium and a lube additive.

If its a bunky with low compression the valves are probably the last thing to worry about. I've run several cars on unleaded with no additive - whatever's cheapest :roll:

Not recommended for longevity, but I've never heard of an engine dying from this type of abuse.

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Dylan's Clubby wrote:
BP Ultimate and a squirt of Flashlube is DEFINTELY the way to go...I won't put anything else in! I bought up the idea of putting an unleaded head on my engine with my mechanic (engine rebuild soon!), he says its a waste of time hardening the valves and seats when you can just use the squirt.

If the exhaust valve seats in the head are worn like many (most?) Minis are now, fitting unleaded seats is a good way to reclaim the head.
Or, fit bigger ex valves... :P

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When I bought my Moke from the fella in Brisbane he told me to use Premium fuel with about 50mls of 2 stroke oil added into the tank :?:
Owing to the fact I have only fueled up 4 times in the last 12 months and have never done any long mileage as of yet, all seems ok at the moment.

Motor is a 1310cc and the head has been modified to use unleaded.


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1. what does twostroke oil do to fuel for a two stroke motor?
2. how would that help a four stroke motor?

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1/ ummmm... errrrrr????? :roll:

2/ ummmm....errrrr????? :roll:


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68matic wrote:
1. what does twostroke oil do to fuel for a two stroke motor?
2. how would that help a four stroke motor?

1. It settles out and condenses onto the cylinder walls and bearings etc when the charge is compressed in the crankcase.
2. It will provide upper cylinder lubrication, in a 4 stroke motor.

One advantage of modern 2 stroke oils is they are ashless- ie. they don't leave lots of carbon etc behind when they burn. This is partly because `oil' comprises a lot less than 50% of the total volume. A high proportion is diesel or similar fuel (to promote self mixing in petrol), the balance is a `package' of anti-wear additives.
Source: I know an industrial chemist at Lubrizol, who make these `mixtures' up for Shell, Valvoline, etc. 8)

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Two stroke oil's a hell of a lot cheaper to buy than any other additive.
Has anyone else heard of this working long term (not you Smokie - 80 litres of fuel a year does not count as a long term test).

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awdmoke wrote:
Two stroke oil's a hell of a lot cheaper to buy than any other additive.
Has anyone else heard of this working long term (not you Smokie - 80 litres of fuel a year does not count as a long term test).

No I haven't, but there's a rumour circulating in US that ATF (auto trans fluid) performs a similar function to lead replacement additives. No I haven't tried it either. :wink:

Moi? I just add 0.1% Flashlube to my BP Ultimate/Mobil 8000, etc. 8)
Done this for over 40,000 miles and after stripping engines a few times since, I know it works.

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[No I haven't, but there's a rumour circulating in US that ATF (auto trans fluid) performs a similar function to lead replacement additives. No I haven't tried it either. :wink:

Moi? I just add 0.1% Flashlube to my BP Ultimate/Mobil 8000, etc. 8)
Done this for over 40,000 miles and after stripping engines a few times since, I know it works.


My brother and father both use atf in there cars ( hz v8 ute and 85 telstar ) They both do over 25,000km a year and they have done about 40,000km each with no problems at all. They use 5ml per litre of fuel or there abouts.
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My advice would be to stop watching Today Tonight... its a crock of sensationalistic bullshit.

I use BP Ultimate and am getting through a bottle of Lucas Lead Replacer. I'll switch to FlashLube when this bottle is done. I've got an unleaded head but I will run the lead-lube anyway.

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dewey wrote:
My advice would be to stop watching Today Tonight... its a crock of sensationalistic bullshit.

I use BP Ultimate and am getting through a bottle of Lucas Lead Replacer. I'll switch to FlashLube when this bottle is done. I've got an unleaded head but I will run the lead-lube anyway.

You are dead right there! They didn't know the difference between leaded Super and LRP.
BTW my local BP still sells LRP... so much for their story!

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Where can you buy Flashlube? Ive looked in Supercrap, AutoOne, and other local auto places but havent seen it on a shelf yet.
Im in WA, but if its one of the bigger chains ie Repco, then we have them here... ;)

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