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Hi all, were there any arches released in days gone by, ever called by the name of, or known as "competition flares"?
Not as wide as miglias, but real neat like wood and pickett with no screw holes like innocenti, and made of fibreglass.
I believe they were around 2 inch wide.
Sorry, no pics at this stage, but from the description, does anyone recall them?
I'll hopefully have pics over the weekend!

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Sound like the wider Cooper S flares which used to be available. Haven't seen them available new for a while.
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were they aussie? or uk?

have a look in here?

http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/in ... sportspack

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They are referred to as Australian Group 2 or Competition flares. Part No: P/N C-AJJ3353.

They are no longer available however I believe The Mini Man may be reproducing them (I hope).

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I hope its them, they look pretty good.
I take it that theyre rather popular.

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I refer to them as Mk2 Cooper S flares (wide).
I am sure they are still available...
Try Karcraft, Lindsay @ Pistons Auto, UK, etc..
maybe even Minisport SA as a last resort?
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willy wrote:
I refer to them as Mk2 Cooper S flares (wide).
I am sure they are still available...
Try Karcraft, Lindsay @ Pistons Auto, UK, etc..
maybe even Minisport SA as a last resort?


Karcraft don't have them. Maybe Lindsay might.

The closest Minisport SA have are the (Ugly) 1 3/4" UK ones.

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Yes, I have them on mine and have seen them on other cars. They are fitted in exactly the same way as the standard BMC flares.

I have noticed quite a few on SA'n cars probably because the law was strict there and if your car had 6in wide wheels (as mine does and is ex SA) then you needed these rather than the standard flare to be technically legal.

On my car they seem to be a black plastic material but I have also seen fibreglass. Perhaps the plastic is original then some enterprising people have made copies over the years.

As Ryan noted hopefully some copies are in the pipline.

There's a surprising number on cars if you look carefully.

Mine...

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Another...

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They are fitted in exactly the same way as the standard BMC flares.

On my car they seem to be a black plastic material


As far as I am aware, although they are factory parts they weren't factory fitted (the wide version that is) to any Mini, however, they may have been an option (factory or dealer). Part numbers C/HYL7012 Frant & Rear RH side & C/HYL7013 Front & Rear LH Side. They were made in black plastic, so yours are genuine I'd say :wink:

You'd think they'd would have offered them in packages of Fronts or Rears, not Left and Rights :roll: Might help with accident repairs though.

From memory, at the top of the front guards, the stock Cooper S ones are 35 mm wide and these competion ones are 55 mm.

Sorry Ryan, C-AJJ3353 are those crappy looking UK ones, yours are C/HYL7012 & C/HYL7013 (or good copies) :wink:

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phillb wrote:
They are fitted in exactly the same way as the standard BMC flares.

On my car they seem to be a black plastic material


As far as I am aware, although they are factory parts they weren't factory fitted (the wide version that is) to any Mini, however, they may have been an option (factory or dealer). Part numbers C/HYL7012 Frant & Rear RH side & C/HYL7013 Front & Rear LH Side. They were made in black plastic, so yours are genuine I'd say :wink:

You'd think they'd would have offered them in packages of Fronts or Rears, not Left and Rights :roll: Might help with accident repairs though.

From memory, at the top of the front guards, the stock Cooper S ones are 35 mm wide and these competion ones are 55 mm.

Sorry Ryan, C-AJJ3353 are those crappy looking UK ones, yours are C/HYL7012 & C/HYL7013 (or good copies) :wink:


No worries, I was just quoting you from this thread

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/posting.p ... e&p=716629
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The one at the top is actually an extra wide factory flare. These were about an inch wider than standard.



ryan wrote:
The one at the top is definitely not a wide one. It is my car.


I have a set one new backing plates for both the standard and wide factory flares.

The standard front ones have a 30 mm width backing plate (measured at the top of the wheel arch).

The Factory ST 'extra wide' ones are 60 mm measured at the same point.

Real nice looking car BTW. 8)

Cheers.


From Factory Info;-

The 'standard' flares (as fitted to MKII Cooper S) for use on wheels up to 4 1/2" in width, P/N C-AJJ3316A

The 'extra wide' flares for use on wheels up to 5 1/2" in width, P/N C-AJJ3353.

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ryan wrote:

No worries, I was just quoting you from this thread



Ha! Thanks mate :oops: :wink: I duuno what drove me to think they were UK ones.

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phillb wrote:
They are fitted in exactly the same way as the standard BMC flares.

On my car they seem to be a black plastic material


As far as I am aware, although they are factory parts they weren't factory fitted (the wide version that is) to any Mini, however, they may have been an option (factory or dealer). Part numbers C/HYL7012 Frant & Rear RH side & C/HYL7013 Front & Rear LH Side. They were made in black plastic, so yours are genuine I'd say :wink:



Correct, not factory fitted but in SA Dealer fitted from what I have heard. There was even some sort of "recall" in SA for owners to return to have them retro-fitted I believe.

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I gave 2 of the wide front flairs to Bryan at Link about 3 or 4 months back, they were the genuine ones, I had a big garage clean up and thought I will never use these, so you could try there if your chasing a set.
He may still have them, they were secondhand I took them off a Cooper S a few years back and put the correct thinner ones on it.
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Thanks drewie, but I was only asking all the questions to find out exactly which molds it was that I just bought! :wink:
Looks like ryan might be the winner in pointing me in the right direction!
Thanks Ryan.
I'll make a set tonight and maybe post a pic tomorrow.

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i want some, i havnt even got a roundie but i want some :wink:

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