im looking to upgrade the break on my Moke,

what have you all found to have the best (and most modern feel) stopping power?

i was looking into 4pot Metro conversion - http://minispares.com/product/Classic/B ... ~Kits.aspx

is there something better ?

Nick

I have that exact set on my Moke and they are very effective, BUT they are overkill. Standard unventilated 2 pot brakes are more than adequate and weigh a lot less. The Metro 4 pot calipers and disks are very heavy so contribute to a lot of unsprung weight. I probably would go for the standard setup next time.

Tim

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is this Boosted ?

i would preffer to have overkill braking.. i need to buy whole brake kit anyway

Unboosted on a standard single line master cylinder. I find that they stop quite nicely with just firm pedal pressure, but if you really need them and stomp on them hard, they really bite in. The first time I really used them in anger the car almost stood on its nose.

You need to fit smaller wheel cylinders at the rear or they tend to lock up first, mine are 5/8" I think. Its also worth thinking about the front shock absorbers at the same time, the extra weight of the disks and calipers won't do the ride or handling any favours.

Tim

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1951 Morris Commercial J Type Van
1955 BSA C11G
1961 Morris Mini Traveller
1969 Triumph TR6R
1977 Leyland Moke Californian

Even after talking to some of the guys directly at KAD about their more exotic brake packages for my build, they still recommended and pushed the solid disks over the vented with a 4 pot caliper. Apart from weight, the vented disks take a lot more time to warm up and start being effective, solids don't.

My question is, apart from all the fancy disk and caliper choices out there, I'm more wanting to know about what complete setups people are using when running a single master cylinder with no booster for the fronts and the same for the rear...

Iam using for front kad 6pot solid 8.4 disc , rear kad disc on aft clubman for hill climb and sprints . Yes they work .

I have:
8.4" unboosted solid stock brakes & pads in MR BN with 1430cc
great feel, not too heavy, and only once managed to get fade after back-to-back hillclimb runs with no cool down on 40C day.

9.25" unboosted vented Camira discs with VB Commodore calipers in the dual engined hillclimb car. Not run yet. Too big & heavy for a road car.

10.4" unboosted vented Volvo discs & calipers in the Sports Sedan. Very big & heavy, probably overbraked for the size of car but with a 140hp dedicated track car it's not unreasonable. Requires twin master cylinders and balance bar to work, very solid feel.

Decent pads in a stock setup will be more than adequate for any road car.
Buy some slotted discs if you want the performance look, but standard calipers give you a wide choice of readily available pads. You do not need vented discs, that is just unwanted mass.

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Too many cars, and too little time.

standard 8.4 in 65 van no booster no probs even coming down from MT Hotham to Harrietville (the minis behind had very little left at the bottom)

standard 7.5 in 73 van no probs so far
both vans running 1100 motors and driven as minis should.

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73 panel van Iggy

What's the car going to be used for?
What engine spec is it?
Is it a big wheeler?

No point sticking vented 4 pots with racing pads on a 20bhp car that weighs less than a tic-tac.

Oh, and boosters are for Vegetarians

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Hi
what about a set like this then

http://www.minisport.com/mini-spare-par ... r_Kit.html


they are lighter than the steel set..

mavro

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its going to be used on a 1977 Moke
running a 1.0L Daihatsu Sirion Engine, (i beleive they are about 40-45hp atw)
running 13x7 wheels

I'I’d go stock standard. 8.4 inch solid discs, 2 pots and no booster (in fact I did on my Moke).
Nice and easy and I'd be very surprised if you are wanting better stopping power on a road car.

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So I wouldn't mind a little guidance here. I have a clubby, 150HP donk getting put in with 13" rims. I currently have the standard 8.4 AP caliper setup but I'm stepping up to a 4 pot KAD caliper with 8.4 solid slotted disk.

What master cylinder size, brake lines, pads and brake fluid would you run and why. Any need for a line adjuster? I'll either be running drums or KAD disks on the back, not sure yet.. K.......go!

im also interested in hearing the relplies to this..

I think you can run a normal master cylinder & brake lines and dot 4 brake fluid.
drums on the back is fine, KAD rear disc are IMO over kill and a waist of money.
They do look good. but most of the braking is done on the front anyway.


mavro

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