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 Post subject: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:06 pm 
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Why does a little 1275 need disc brakes when 60s and early 70s holdens had 6 cyl engines with drums all round and alot heavier in weight


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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:17 pm 
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Because Minis are faster :D


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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:01 am 
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Yep he's right.
But IMO it comes down to the fact that the only minis (not mokes) came from the factory with a 1275 and disc brakes together so for "safety" the same level of acceleration and braking abilities should be applied to a modified/upgraded mini.

I have driven a mini fast with a 998 and drums and it works out alright. I've also driven a 1275 with drums and it works out the same as the 998, it's possiable to do so safely. Then I installed the disc brakes under the 1275 and it's a whole heap eaiser to drive with confidence.

The weird thing is Leyland released some mokes with 1275's and drum brakes at the same time they were releasing mini's with 1275's and disc brakes. Why dose one need it and not the other and their both street legal...crazy Leyland and the transport authorties of the time :roll: .

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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:58 am 
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It is not a matter of a 1275 really needing discs for safety, it is the fact that all 1275 minis came with discs from the factory. So the factory has done the engineering work for you. So if you want to go from an 850 to a 1275 you can do the upgrade without needing any engineering approval as long as you use all the safety features that the 1275 Mini came with (meaning discs).

Drum brakes on Holdens. If you want to stick a 350 Chev motor in your drum braked HQ Belmont guess what? You have to use discs like the 350 powered cars came with.

If you really want to stick with drums and a 1275 you will need to get it engineered because nobody else did.

The factory did the engineering paperwork for the Moke with drums and a 1275. If you want to stick a 1275 in a Moke you can do it without discs.


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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:05 pm 
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I would say the weight of a 1275 moke is a contributing factor as to why they believed discs were not needed.


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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:10 pm 
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Im not changing to a 1275 just asking as ive seen a few same era holdens with drums all round


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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:41 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:56 pm 
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1275 engines and drum brakes were fitted to South African Minis by the Leyland factory.

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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:32 pm 
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drjbeam wrote:
Im not changing to a 1275 just asking as ive seen a few same era holdens with drums all round

Most trucks have drums all round and some of them might be a little heavier than a Mini.


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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:32 pm 
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"1275 engines and drum brakes were fitted to South African Minis by the Leyland factory."
Maybe true I don't know but we are talking Aussie modification rules.

"Most trucks have drums all round and some of them might be a little heavier than a Mini."
Drums are more effective because of more friction area but suffer fade when used over and over. Discs are better when used in race situations as they cool better.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:50 pm 
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2LS drums stop you real good... once.
Discs keep on stopping good, and don't need adjustment. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:24 pm 
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yeah stuff adjusting drums. Discs are the go for a mini.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:51 pm 
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Hey on the subject on brakes, what's the going price for a pair of 7.5inch brakes/Full disc drive assembly. Discs, calipers, hubs,bearings, steering arms, drive flanges etc, new ebc pads, disc in good nick, got a pair l might let go, ta

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:47 pm 
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davem wrote:
Hey on the subject on brakes, what's the going price for a pair of 7.5inch brakes/Full disc drive assembly. Discs, calipers, hubs,bearings, steering arms, drive flanges etc, new ebc pads, disc in good nick, got a pair l might let go, ta

New conversion set is around $1000, so maybe half that?

I might be interested

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 Post subject: Re: 1275 and disc brakes
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davem wrote:
Hey on the subject on brakes, what's the going price for a pair of 7.5inch brakes/Full disc drive assembly. Discs, calipers, hubs,bearings, steering arms, drive flanges etc, new ebc pads, disc in good nick, got a pair l might let go, ta


You could let them go for free if you want.


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