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 Post subject: Mini Headlamp Flashers
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:13 pm 
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Recently there was some discussion in this thread (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88318) about the headlight flash feature that was available on the indicator stalk fitted to the MK II Mini series but disabled in the factory. This is the Lucas item that had the horn push located on the end of the stalk rather than in the centre of the steering wheel as per the Mark 1 Mini series.

Below is an extract from the Service Letter that makes reference to the reason for removing the flash facility.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:35 pm 
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The new switches at parts shops have the flash wire in them you run a wire from the battery side of the fuse box and hook it up to the wire on switch

I forget the colour wire on the switch


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:32 pm 
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I love these dealer memos. They put all kinds of issues in perspective.
What a treasure trove.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:12 pm 
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I like the comment about killing rust under chrome. Has any one tried this process, if so what was the success rate?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:49 pm 
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It's simply phosphoric acid - rust converter. You wipe it on and then wash it off with a solvent after the conversion process. Newer version may be painted straight over. Still available under different names from Supercheap for example.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:59 pm 
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I am more interested in the result with chrome.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:02 pm 
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I might give it a go out in the garage I have a rusty old moustache piece. I don't expect it would creep under the chrome very far though... I think it will just remove the rust on the surface. Probably got the customer off their case I expect for a few months...

I'll let you know.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:16 pm 
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I might give it a go out in the garage I have a rusty old moustache piece. I don't expect it would creep under the chrome very far though... I think it will just remove the rust on the surface. Probably got the customer off their case I expect for a few months...

I'll let you know.


I've seen it done with Coca Cola I think.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:20 pm 
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winabbey wrote:
Recently there was some discussion in this thread (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88318) about the headlight flash feature that was available on the indicator stalk fitted to the MK II Mini series but disabled in the factory. This is the Lucas item that had the horn push located on the end of the stalk rather than in the centre of the steering wheel as per the Mark 1 Mini series.

Below is an extract from the Service Letter that makes reference to the reason for removing the flash facility.

Interesting. So when did the Regulation change to allowing flashers. And was this feature removed on imported cars, or simply not allowed on Aus assembled cars.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:39 pm 
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Interesting. So when did the Regulation change to allowing flashers. And was this feature removed on imported cars, or simply not allowed on Aus assembled cars.

Considering the Australian made Morris 1100 came with flashers from around 1966 to 1969 I really can't see them being illegal even if the service bulletin says so.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:29 am 
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Morris 1100 wrote:
phillb wrote:
Interesting. So when did the Regulation change to allowing flashers. And was this feature removed on imported cars, or simply not allowed on Aus assembled cars.

Considering the Australian made Morris 1100 came with flashers from around 1966 to 1969 I really can't see them being illegal even if the service bulletin says so.


Same here...flashing your headlights to warn of danger ahead was common in the olden days before the authorities decided to make it an offence in particular cases (warn of a Police presence)

I still do it as appropriate...(NO...not to warn of a Police presence but an accident, yes)

PS I suppose it could have been an ADR thing...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:46 am 
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Every other car model has this Flash function and have had for many decades. What is wrong with the Mini having it? I know someone who was failed Road worthy because it didn't work. He brought the car to me to fix it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:05 am 
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phillb wrote:
winabbey wrote:
Recently there was some discussion in this thread (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88318) about the headlight flash feature that was available on the indicator stalk fitted to the MK II Mini series but disabled in the factory. This is the Lucas item that had the horn push located on the end of the stalk rather than in the centre of the steering wheel as per the Mark 1 Mini series.

Below is an extract from the Service Letter that makes reference to the reason for removing the flash facility.

Interesting. So when did the Regulation change to allowing flashers. And was this feature removed on imported cars, or simply not allowed on Aus assembled cars.


The Ford Falcon came out with flashers with the XB (1973). I also rembember reading somewhere that it was the first car out of the "big 3" Australian car manafuctures to introduce that feature.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:38 am 
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phillb wrote:
Interesting. So when did the Regulation change to allowing flashers. And was this feature removed on imported cars, or simply not allowed on Aus assembled cars.

Considering the Australian made Morris 1100 came with flashers from around 1966 to 1969 I really can't see them being illegal even if the service bulletin says so.


Same here...flashing your headlights to warn of danger ahead was common in the olden days before the authorities decided to make it an offence in particular cases (warn of a Police presence)

I still do it as appropriate...(NO...not to warn of a Police presence but an accident, yes)

PS I suppose it could have been an ADR thing...


It is in the road regulations, or at least it used to be, that you would/could flash the driver ahead of you to signal your intention to overtake. Most drivers wouldn't realise why you were flashing.

So clearly at some point they accepted that cars have this feature.

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(1) The driver of a vehicle must not use the vehicle’s headlights on high-beam, or allow the vehicle’s headlights to be used on high-beam, if the driver is driving:
(a) less than 200 metres behind a vehicle travelling in the same direction as the driver, or
(b) less than 200 metres from an oncoming vehicle.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

Note. High-beam and oncoming vehicle are defined in the Dictionary.
(2) However, if the driver is overtaking a vehicle, the driver may briefly switch the headlights from low-beam to high-beam immediately before the driver begins to overtake the vehicle.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:57 am 
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The Ford Falcon came out with flashers with the XB (1973).

I had a XB GS500 coupe the headlight switch fused(common fault apparently) one morning early so had to drive with holding the flash switch held on till day light so I could see were I was going ( not fun ) so a useful addition

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