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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:38 pm 
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Just got an email from Keith Calver, his mate has a Cooper "S" motor taken from his S and wanted to know if I was interested in it, long motor and gear box no ancillaries 3500 pounds :shock: is this the sort of money they are selling for over sea's
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 Post subject: Re: S type motors
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:13 pm 
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I have no experience but that does seem expensive! Especially considering the exchange rate at the moment.


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I know someone who could fill half a container with em and flood the market! Never ceases to amuse and amaze what some people will pay for something they think is rare and desirable...

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If it were 200bhp it might be worth it.


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Watch this one to the end if you are interested... Currently at £2450 with 5 days to go and 35 bids

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Mini- ... 2ee6828565

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 Post subject: Re: S type motors
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But then there are ones like this too: Link

Are MPI engines really worth less than half the price?


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 Post subject: Re: S type motors
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:52 pm 
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timmy201 wrote:
Watch this one to the end if you are interested... Currently at £2450 with 5 days to go and 35 bids

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Mini- ... 2ee6828565

The pressed steel rockers shown there are wrong for an S, I wonder what else inside it is not kosher?
I can't believe what these things are going for over there!

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 Post subject: Re: S type motors
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:59 pm 
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Irish Yobbo wrote:
But then there are ones like this too: Link

Are MPI engines really worth less than half the price?

Yes. The later 1275 engines are really not worth much over there, at least compared to a genuine Cooper S engine.

The average price of a 1275 Cooper S over there is probably up over £25k (about $55k) at the moment so getting the right engine can mean a lot to the value of the car!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:37 pm 
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methinks the 3500 pound S engine will go towards making a more humble Mini into a 25000 pound Cooper S. Probably even matching numbers to a heritage certificate.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:31 am 
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The S engine in the ebay auction looks like the 'thick flange' block which was used in the Mk3 S from about '69 to end of production in mid '71. These are pretty rare, and anyone looking to do an original Mk3 S restoration could be chasing it. But ironically the values of the Mk3 S are much lower than Mk1 or Mk2 versions...

There are rumours that Minispares in the UK are getting these thick flange S blocks remanufactured, but they still won't be cheap.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:34 am 
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Getting up there. Last Mk 2 Block with caps on Ebay, around $1000 ,good crank $600,rods $150,Cam $150,Head $600,Gearbox must be around $1500-2000. Thats $4500 Then all the extras:Primary Gear, rocker,head studs,tappet cover,Flywheel,clutch,housings,pulley,brackets and other ancillaries ,probably another $500. There's your $5000, not counting any reconditioning.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:53 am 
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I sold my +.040" Mk2S block & caps last year for $600. I thought that was a good price then?
Considering good (std bore) 1100S blocks go for $350-450.

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 Post subject: Re: S type motors
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:22 am 
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i have a MK1 "S" power unit here at half the cost of the pohmy one & no freight costs to pay

maybe i should list it for sale in the UK ebay site at twice my asking price :-)

Have you seen the prices that the side/vertical mounted oil-coolers are going for these days
i have 2x of em :-) i`ll wait till i retire & buy another house in Byron Bay when i sell them :-)

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 Post subject: Re: S type motors
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:58 pm 
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Yes Cooper S prices are going for BIG $$ over in the UK... And I hate to say it, Australia will be going the same way. we tend to follow the international classic car market by about 3 years...

Lucky I have no plans on selling my Matching number S.... unless they start going for GTHO money... lol

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