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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:50 pm 
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OK, now I have done it, I know whats needed and how long you have.


NOTE - This guide is from my own personal experience having this done. The steps below allowed me to have a hassle free transfer of rego of an imported Mini that held SA rego. You can argue about what I have posted, but having spoken to a)An engineer b)A certified mechanic & c)NSW RTA....below is what you need to do to avoid any sort of hassles now or in the future.

The information below was current @ 22/02/2008 - After this date, you might need to contact the RTA in NSW or your local engineer to confirm any of the below info.


How long from the date of purchase do I have to register the car into my name ?
2 Weeks [14 days]
What happens if I dont ?
You aren't registered and you pay a late fee when you do end up registering it.

But I thought you only paid a late fee when you [b]transferred rego late ?[/b]
No, the RTA are assholes and charge you a late fee even though you are applying for new registration.

What paperwork do I need when I head to the RTA to get my Mini registered ?
-Engineers Certificate
-Application for new registration
-Blueslip
-Greenslip
-Receipt for purchase of car
-Rego transfer slip (paper the rego sticker came off)
-Lots of cash.


What will each cost ?
Engineers certificate = Approx $200
Blueslip = Approx $90
Greenslip = Depends on your age. (25yo, no acco's = $513 through NRMA)
Rego = Approx $213
Stamp duty = 3% of purchase price.
Weighbridge Cert. = Approx $20.

Where do I get an engineers certificate ?
]An authorised vehicle engineer. Check RTA site for a list of engineers in your area. Or...ring them.

What will the engineer check ?
-They will check that it has been complied.
-VIN number is correct
-Engine number is correct
-Check exhaust dB reading (@ 4000RPM)
-Tyre placard
-Tuning specification placard/sticker.
-Probably other things also, I just didn't notice.

Who the hell does blueslips ?
Ring around some mechanics, lot's of them do blueslips.

Do I need to take anything for the blueslip other than engineers certificate ?You will need a print out from a weighbridge station with the cars VIN on it, displaying your cars weight.

How long does a blueslip take ? Is it was quick as a pinkslip ?
A while. No. Plan for half a day, to a full day of not having your car

Can I get a blueslip and THEN an engineers certificate ?
No. You will fail your blueslip due to failure to supply an engineers certificate. You MUST get the engineers certificate first.



Once you have got all your paperwork sorted, then its off to the RTA for rego. Don;t forget you are going to pay STAMP DUTY when you register it.

It will cost you about $213 for rego, the late fee (f you have one) and then 3% of the purchase price for stamp duty.

So on a $15,000 vehicle that you have registered late, you will pay $702.

So all up you are looking at an extra $1000+ to get your import on the road after you purchase it.

Note on insurance - Shannon insure Rovers. I am paying about $140 a month for full comp. insured for $15k.

Thats all the main stuff I can think of that I wish I'd have known beforehand. Hope it helps in the future!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:39 pm 
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Nice write up, well done. They dudded you on the late fee, I waited a couple of months before I did mine (how can you register it within 2 weeks if you are actually in SA with the car :wink: )

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:47 pm 
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Not that I would want to enter into debate because i don't know all the circumstances BUT

How long from the date of purchase do I have to register the car into my name ?
2 Weeks [14 days]

Not true - maybe if you use the vehicle you have to - but you can return the plates or buy a registered or unregistered vehicle with no obligation to register it. Done so several times myself. Two cars went at least several years before being registered. There's no mechanism to transfer registration of an unroadworthy vehicle. You should fill out the change of ownership certificate and send it back - but they won't charge stamp duty until you register it in your name.


What happens if I dont ?
You aren't registered and you pay a late fee when you do end up registering it.

Not true. There is no requirement to have a car continually registered and no penalty for registering an unregistered vehicle. Its actually cheaper to surrender the registration and get new registration rather than renew it if registration is not possible when it falls due (For example: if the vehicle cannot be roadworthied (because the engine is in bits) then it can't be registered).


But I thought you only paid a late fee when you [b]transferred rego late ?
No, the RTA are assholes and charge you a late fee even though you are applying for new registration.

Not true - have done this on more than a few occasions


What paperwork do I need when I head to the RTA to get my Mini registered ?
-Engineers Certificate

Only if it has been modified from standard (and even then I would suggest only if modified to some considerable degree)

-Application for new registration
-Blueslip
-Greenslip
-Receipt for pur......................

Greenslip = Depends on your age. (25yo, no acco's = $513 through NRMA)

You need to check ALL the possible sources as they all use different discriminators - From my experience the best deal for a 25 YO does not come from the NRMA.

Rego = Approx $213
Stamp duty = 3% of purchase price.
Weighbridge ..................................

What will the engineer check ?
-They will check that it has been complied.

Standard vehicles with compliance plates do not need engineer's certificates.

-VIN number is correct
-Engine number is correct
-Check exhaust dB reading (@ 4000RPM)
-Tyre placard
-Tuning specification placard/sticker.
-Probably other things also, I just didn't notice.

Who the hell does blueslips ?
Ring around some mechanics, lot's of them do blueslips.

Local RTA will provide a list.

..........................

You will need a print out from a weighbridge station with the cars VIN on it, displaying your cars weight.[b]

Not really. They need documentary evidence of your vehicles weight - the vehicle manual would suffice. My inspector was willing to settle for a magazine article.


How long does a blueslip take ? Is it was quick as a pinkslip ?
[b]A while. No. Plan for half a day, to a full day of not having your car

Check what they do. In my experience about an hour is more than enough. They only get a standard fee from the Government (well from you actually but the Gov controlls how much they can demand). They usually don't want to waste time.


Can I get a blueslip and THEN an ................................

Thats all the main stuff I can think of that I wish I'd have known beforehand. Hope it helps in the future!!!

In my experience you need to be really careful where you go for Rego certification in NSW. Go somewhere you know, has been recommended, or is familiar with your vehicle. I have had some real run-arounds with idiots/rip off merchants etc when registering various vehicles. The problem is with private enterprise interpreting Government regulations.

However, there's no rule that says their interpretation is correct.

One shop insisted on an engineers certificate for a perfectly standard Toyota Corolla because it was "too short". Even after I pointed out that his "official" manual was printed some 5 years after my car was built and he was looking at the specs of about the third iteration of the Corolla. After some "discussion" he decided he didn't want to accompany me to the local police station to discuss my decision to not pay him for services not rendered.

This is not the only time I have left without paying. I've even had extensive discussion with the manager of the local RTA office which were only resolved when he was persuaded to get the latest amendment to HIS manual faxed down from head office.

While all the comments by the FAQ writer may be true - for him. It may not be true for you. In my business we have a standard answer for every question. It stars with, "It depends.......".

Unfortunately its up to you to know what it depends on - and to be able to back up your position - if you don't like their rules.

I think that's about 5 cents worth :)

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When the car was "complied" for it's first rego in SA, shouldn't it get a Compliance Plate fitted?


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1071 wrote:

-Engineers Certificate

Only if it has been modified from standard (and even then I would suggest only if modified to some considerable degree)

You do need one in NSW even if the vehicle has been regoed in another state before as it is an Import and needs to be certified for the ADR's for the year the car was built in.
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d1ck0 wrote:
When the car was "complied" for it's first rego in SA, shouldn't it get a Compliance Plate fitted?

No
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deluxe_68 wrote:
1071 wrote:

-Engineers Certificate

Only if it has been modified from standard (and even then I would suggest only if modified to some considerable degree)

You do need one in NSW even if the vehicle has been regoed in another state before as it is an Import and needs to be certified for the ADR's for the year the car was built in.
Cheers Pete


And that sums up why 1071 typed that whole post for very little return, Maxi's post is spot on if you want a register an import that is registered in another state.

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This is probably a case where the RTA is not following the RTA rules.

If a car has previous registration history (even from another state) it is only supposed to need a Blue Slip. (I have the rules here somewhere.)
I have two unregistered imports and I looked into the rules about registering them before I got them.


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For the record, 1071's Minis are imports too.
But both are pre-ADRs.

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It all falls back to who and where the engineers report was done.
It has to done by an engineer that is on the RTA's list and be done in the NSW format.
I went through all of this in April this year with a Rover that I bought from Steve.
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If the car has previous registration history it should not need an engineers report. The RTA say so. 8)


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Morris 1100 wrote:
This is probably a case where the RTA is not following the RTA rules.


Probably, however the FAQ that Maxi posted is spot on in terms of getting the car registered in NSW with the least amount of hassle.

Morris 1100 wrote:
If a car has previous registration history (even from another state) it is only supposed to need a Blue Slip. (I have the rules here somewhere.)


Check the rules, I remember reading something that it needs at least 12 months rego history from another state. On top of all of this, if they don't like the look of you or your application they can send you to a specific station for an id check before granting you rego.

When I went through all of this things were starting to get complicated at the RTA counter (lots of questions and frowns from behind the counter), out came the pile of paperwork (specifically the import papers and engineer's certificate) and it put a smile on the lady's face and I got it registered first go.

Yes, there are possible short cuts to the whole process, but you run the risk of getting tied up in red tape. Maxi's summary is a great "how to" pass and get it registered with the least amount of hassle (which is want you want after having forked out $$$ and gone to the trouble of getting your new baby home). 8)

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Whats the point of short cuts when you can abuse the RTA for free?
(I wonder if I am still banned from the Penrith RTA) :mrgreen:


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unless the rules have changed recently once a car has 2 years rego history in any state it can be transfered without a new certificate, its not all that hard to comply a pre 88 car the worst part is the side intrusion bars the rest is pretty much crap like tyre placards and stickers for unleaded fuel and the like and maybe a cat, the earlier the car the less it takes

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http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... icles.html
RTA wrote:
Get rego for an imported vehicle

You must go to a motor registry, or send an authorised representative, to register an imported vehicle.

Only vehicles that are registered overseas and are in NSW temporarily are not required to be registered.

What you need to provide:

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A certificate from an RTA-approved Engineering Signatory, to confirm that the vehicle meets Australian standards.
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A Vehicle Import Approval from the Commonwealth Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government.
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A weighbridge ticket.

Plus:

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Proof of your identity, or, if you're registering the vehicle in the name of a company or organisation, proof that the company or organisation is a legal entity.
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Proof of entitlement to register the vehicle.
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Proof of your residential address in NSW.
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A valid green slip with the number plate section blank (except for trailers).
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A blue slip from an Authorised Unregistered Vehicle Inspection Station (AUVIS).
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A completed Application for Registration form, available from the Registration forms link, below.
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Evidence of your eligibility for a pensioner or other concession if you intend to claim one.
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A Representative's Authority if the vehicle is being registered in the name of a company or other organisation, or if you send someone to register the vehicle for you.
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For a company, the Director or an authorised delegate must complete and sign the Representative's section on the Application for Registration form, or provide a letter of authorisation on letterhead.
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In the case of an incorporated association, the Public Officer must sign.
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In all cases, the authorised representative must provide proof of their identity.
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Payment for fees, taxes and charges.
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All vehicles presented for registration (including interstate and imported vehicles) may need to be inspected by the RTA's Vehicle Identification Inspection Unit (VIIU). There is an additional fee for this inspection. If you vehicle needs a VIIU inspection, you will be notified at the time of registration.

What you need to pay:

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Registration fees.
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Stamp duty.
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Number plate fees.
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Inspection fee (the blue slip).
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Vehicle identification inspection fee.
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CTP insurance premium (the green slip).

No were on there website does it state about having rego in another state for any period time cancels out the need for a engineers report.
Cheers Pete

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