I like that! Yeah, in all seriousness, people have to use a little common sense... If someone has said 'use a BFH to get the little skinny, frail pin out of somewhere,' common sense would tell you 'Hey, that might break!'

The BFH and matching screwdriver are probably some of the most used tools in my chest


Just don't bash the shiz out of things that will obviously break...

It's not just breaking things that is an issue, it is also rooting them.

A recent thread was talking about bashing a lower suspension arm pivot bolt out, the only part of this that is remotely bashable is the thread on the end. Hit the thread a few times, stuff the thread up, the part is buggered but not broken. In this case the original answer of melting the rubber out was the best one, I've been there and done it, but the BFH brigade got in there and it seems the question asker used force as the option.

I've used the BFH as an example, what I'm referring to is crap advice in general.

It just seems to be against the reason for having a forum, that is to help impart information and knowledge. We can all learn something but it is pointless teaching the unknowing the art of destruction

Cheers
Steve

As the person in that thread that suggested use of WD40 and a BFH, I completely and utterly stand by that advice. In my recent experience of doing that job, that was what I did and it worked.

In regards to damaging the thread of the pin, that is a valid concern. However, I would argue that when the lower control arm pin has rusted to the bush insert, it is generally no longer usable anyway - every time I have come across this situation, that has been the case. The pins are available new.

I would take offence to any suggestion my advice is crap.

Sometimes belting the shitter out of something with a BFH is the right advise. Maybe further detail should added to ensure that the correct is used. eg with a light fairy tap gently with a BFH motivate the pivot to move or applying medium effort, ensuring the thread is preserved, apply the BFH to the pivot as you would a badly behaving child.

another classic

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In this case, i reckon it was a bit of advice that was valid. But it was incomplete. If you had also said "In regards to damaging the thread of the pin, that is a valid concern. However, I would argue that when the lower control arm pin has rusted to the bush insert, it is generally no longer usable anyway - every time I have come across this situation, that has been the case. The pins are available new" then it would have been complete.

Burning the rubber away was also valid, and may have salvaged a usable part.

The point is, a lot of people are giving incomplete or misleading advice, without regard for what someone else may do once they read it.

So if we all temper our enthusiasm for the BFH with moderation and a guiding hand to the amount and severity of said BFH application to the task at hand, we will provide better advice!!

Still a good call I think.

M

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most commonly misused tool is the one between yer ears.

most common mistake is not asking what seems to be a stupid question.

all advice given is free, and so you must consider it in this way. you can't get your money back

most advice is offered from years of hard gained experience and you should read it with the patience that it deserves.

and keep using the tool between yer ears.

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here here

you are assuming that people are actually the tool between their ears

or perhaps the act of using the little head rather than thinking with the big head

If anyone is sceptical of the advice given , ask more questions, or maybe a please explain?

Its not so much about the wrong advice its about asking the right questions.

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well obviously they can be used as a precsion instrument see third Pic

see below



heres the thread
http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42150

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Thats a SFH!!!

On a serious note I have been struggling to free parts and thought that there still must be a bolt in there somewhere only to be given the BFH advice. That has saved a lot of time stuffing around. Mind you I didn't pick up my biggest sledge and give it 11/10!!
As said previously, the advise needs to be taken in context.

Some people just have to break some parts before they learn. I'm sure everybody who has takled big jobs on their cars have F**ked up every so often and thought: "well I won't do it that way again!"

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