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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:13 am 
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um :? a weber is effectively two carbs in the one body by that theory so each barrel wouls suffer from your suckworthy theory too :lol:

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true, but not quote, a weber doesn't have a piston that goes up and down, the fuel flows down, instead of up so has gravity on it's side, it has a constant bleed as well as the jet.....

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Ther is a reason why BMC used twin 1 1/4" SU's on their performance cars.
They spent millions of dollars on R&D to come up with this package.
Obviously if a single carb was better they would have done it?


BMC - millions of dollars in R&D - doubt it ;) HIF SU's weren't around in the days of the Abingdon competition department, so they wouldn't have seen the benefits from there, and I'd say there was a lot of "this has always worked, so why change it" thinking... and when did a factory ever produce the best they could out of a car - what makes more power, a factory Subaru WRX STi, or a standard WRX off the showroom floor with $15,000 spent on performance modifications. They were working on 6 cylinder motors as well, which would definitely benefit from twins over a single - or closer to the mark it's 2 singles, the triumph we have has twin HIF44's, and there's no balance pipe at all.

I reckon you can tell there's something wrong with the mini set up by thinking about the need for a balance pipe in the first place - it's there to keep up air flow, and give each port access to a tiny bit more carb inlet, probably makes 1 1/4" up to 1 3/8", the better the balance pipe, the more extra intake... but design a system with no need for a compensator in the first place

another reason behind a big single is also to do with constant air flow, and how there's only ever one cylinder drawing fuel charge at a time anyway - so would you rather each piston have access to an 1 1/4" intake or a 1 3/4" air intake

I wish I had my own dyno, enough dosh to have a selection of carbs, inlet manifolds, needles, jets, springs and everything else, and I'd spend all day testing and testing to see the very best combinations with a particular objective in mind - I don't have that, so the best I've found is Vizard ;) anyone who wants to understand a bit more about mini performance needs to have a copy

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I've got the dyno... if you got the time to come over.
Also got carby setups, needles etc. come play.

ps. hif carbs were designed for less emmisions.

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bugger, 1200k's is a bit far for me, can you bring the dyno here :!: :?:

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No prob, meet you half way?
We'll dyno cars on the side of the highway.
make some cash as we go.

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Twins 1.25 have much better take off, why? the Piston is smaller and hence will open up faster, my Van had 1.5's but as a daily driver in traffic it was a pig. On the freeway great! So i scaled back to 1.25s and the difference in traffic was remarkable, better take off all round. It's not setup for out and out speed, but to be a good solid car to get around in that has some poke. I think that the guy wants a car he can drive on the street and not have to man handle the thing all the time. twin 1.24's will be a benifit over a single in my opinion.

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maybe..... but maybe a softer spring and lighter oil woulda made the 1 1/2"s open up quicker ;)

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nope didn't do it. I had them for 5 years on the car. Had them rebuilt and tuned etc etc. Swapped em out and it was what i wanted. This isn't to say it's what everyone would want.

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interesting..... I've got twin 1 1/2"s on my van, and until my ported and flowed head cracked it's way to the scrap pile, it was teriffic, now with a standard S head it has much less low down poke - maybe I should put my money where my mouth is and try a big single, and compare it with little twins

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It's all about the air speed across the butterfly.
The smaller the carb, the more air speed. more torque.
Bigger carb(s) less air speed. less torque but better up high.

I'm not a fan of twin 1 1/2" su's for this reason. unless you have a 1380
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NSW Police Cooper S's had twin HS4s and a 731 cam. One chased me for 20 miles back in `69 (I was in the Fiat 124S). He reckons he was doing 106MPH (slightly downhill). I was doing around 110.
Yeah I got booked then (speed dangerous) but beat it eventually. :lol:

I like twin HS4s if the cam and head are modified, a waste of time on less than a 1275 though. :wink:

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sam.

bring it round some time next week, or chuck up some pics. or meet me in town. me and gordie should have enough go fast bits to keep u happy for a while, and then u can buy my motor off me, or gordies.

but like u said, get a better job, and keep track of EVERYTHING u spend on her if u are going to sell it on.

ohhh i remember now, do u wanna buy a 1100? put a good carb and zorst set up on that, maybe some head work and u will be right for a while. PM me.

cheers, take care and welcome to the world of Minis. get ur self some AUSMINI.com stickers asap. PM tzi.

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Off topic...... but hey.... :roll:

Spaceboy..... that Lambo is the yellow one from Glenelg, yes?

That guy drives it quite often, but never drives it hard. Everytime i see it, the guy is just rolling around - like an old guy in a volvo. I wonder if he's even gone over a speed limit before?!

Yes. I believe you woulda passed him in the hills. 8)

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Off topic...... but hey.... :roll:

Spaceboy..... that Lambo is the yellow one from Glenelg, yes?

That guy drives it quite often, but never drives it hard. Everytime i see it, the guy is just rolling around - like an old guy in a volvo. I wonder if he's even gone over a speed limit before?!

Yes. I believe you woulda passed him in the hills. 8)


no it was RED! :D


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hmmm..... must be hereditary then :roll: If it was a red one, that would theoretically make it faster than a yellow one.... but not faster than a mini it seems!

Bloody Lambo drivers.

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i have just been looking at extractas and exhaust would it produce much more power?
i have heard many different things about this so could some one enlitern me please
thax :wink:

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