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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:02 pm 
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Has anyone had any experience with this item

NEW Hydragas,Hydrolastic MGF Metro 1100 Suspension Pump
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Hey John,

I just literally enquired about it yesterday and will order it at the end of this month. It comes with a Low Loss Valve option which is extra and for a further 12GBP you can buy a vacuum adapter for the Low Loss Valve which essentially will make it work with any vacuum including hand held ones of the brake bleeder type.

Apparently with all of this for about $200 posted, it can do what those factory pumps can. Opening up a bypass valve, applying vacuum to suck out the air, then close valve, and pump in new fluid.

If you buy it first let me know otherwise I will give you the full review in Feb.

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It is a grease gun. You could buy one here and get a Schrader chuck fitted to it.
The big problem with the grease gun is they are slow.

You could do what Drmini and myself both did and make a hydro pump from a master cylinder.

There is no need for a vacuum pump. You just fill it up and let it down a few times to purge the air out.


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I've thought of making my own for 10 years, and by the time you collect all the bits and pieces and weld (don't have a welder) I'd rather just pay $70....

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I bought one and they work a treat. Thought it was completely poxy to start with until I put a new valve in the end of the hydro line and it held pressure. Yes a bit slow, but how many times do you need to be messing around with your hydro. The gauge stopped working pretty quick but think it may have been me that buggered it with the faulty valve.

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Lillee wrote:
I've thought of making my own for 10 years, and by the time you collect all the bits and pieces and weld (don't have a welder) I'd rather just pay $70....


Chong, you can make your own without welding. I put together my grease gun hydro pump with fittings from Pirtek, a valve from a US website and a pressure gauge off of eBay. It all just screwed together. Having said that though the valve from the US was about $50-60 so the $70 value of this one is very, very good.

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I have one. As mentioned by Babes it works really well. Yes its a little slow but who cares, I might play with my height 1 or 2 times a year.

To let down the system I just pushed a bike pump valve end onto some hose and use that to drain the fluid out. Then use the hand pump to fill it up

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Location: Under the bonnet son!
I still have the one I created a few years ago. Its made from a grease pump and some fittings. It doesn't make a mess and is very fast, I think about 20 pumps and its done. The tank holds enough for both sides and more. The lines drain back to the tank to bleed the air out of the system.

Have you still got the one you made up SGC?

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I made one as per Mick's design, works a treat, and looks the goods.

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Mick wrote:
I still have the one I created a few years ago. Its made from a grease pump and some fittings. It doesn't make a mess and is very fast, I think about 20 pumps and its done. The tank holds enough for both sides and more. The lines drain back to the tank to bleed the air out of the system.

Have you still got the one you made up SGC?

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Mick's one looks much better than this one...

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But how about this one...

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Or the porn version...

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lol that Grease pump one looks awesome! But I think it would cost more than $70??

Glad to know it works well. All I want is the odd occasional pump up or flush. The fact that it's $70 or $200 for the full monty with vacuum is a nice thought.

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From memory I think all up it was about 120 or 130 to build.

The original hydro machines are awesome, especially with vacuum if it works, but they get pretty expensive if you're after one. You can omit the need for vacuum by pumping up and releasing three of four times. The air gathers at the high points and blows out to the tank as you release it. Without an original pump with vacuum, all other types of pumps need to cycle the hydro up and down a few times to flush them out.

I used the grease pump because the grease gun based units need to be refilled mid pump up at least once which makes things pretty messy and introduces the chance of air getting into the fill.

Here's the build link:
http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... hydro+pump

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Mick wrote:
Have you still got the one you made up SGC?


Absolutely! Still works well, although it doesn't get much use these days :)

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