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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:41 am 
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Rather than take all the risks portrayed above, Where do you want the motor & gearbox picked up & delivered?


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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:32 pm 
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Nowra to Southern Syd. its only about a 2 hour drive if that, and I should be down for the show 'n' shine in the gong on the 23rd so I would kill 2 birds with one stone.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:48 am 
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Has accident... voids insurance. ..

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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:23 am 
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I find that hard to believe...I've never (sic) seen any regulation 9other than overall weight) as to what can and cannot be carried in a car.....

Can you enlighten us??

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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:29 pm 
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Try Hunter express for a quote Nowra to Sydney, they're not bad.. Toll is excellent, but slightly dearer.


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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:28 pm 
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Just do it!

It will be a good story and make sure you grab a few pictures

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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:46 pm 
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I do this often with a full drum kit and extra bits in my 68 Matic - I even had a copper give me the thumbs up once heading to a gig, so that's a 22" bass drum in its hard road case, a 16" floor tom in its case, a 14" rack tom, two 14" snare drums, a heavy traps case where the passenger seat usually is, two heavy shot bags and a 30 kg cymbal case. I only do it localy now when I have too, but in the late 80's used to do it all the time for Sydney gigs in an earlier mini I owned

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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:37 pm 
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I do this often with a full drum kit and extra bits in my 68 Matic - I even had a copper give me the thumbs up once heading to a gig, so that's a 22" bass drum in its hard road case, a 16" floor tom in its case, a 14" rack tom, two 14" snare drums, a heavy traps case where the passenger seat usually is, two heavy shot bags and a 30 kg cymbal case. I only do it localy now when I have too, but in the late 80's used to do it all the time for Sydney gigs in an earlier mini I owned

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A van would make that so much easier! If only getting the stuff in and out.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:32 am 
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There doesn't appear to be much information in regards to caring items inside a vehicle, aside from common sense and securing your load, The NTC Load restraint guide is a good read though.

http://www.ntc.gov.au/heavy-vehicles/safety/load-restraint-guide/

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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:35 pm 
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The drum kit is one thing, kudos for that. It is kind of like trying to fit a marshall head and stack along with mic's and other gear into my old laser.

The engine is another thing entirely. I would suggest that there isn't an appropriate location in the cabin to restrain a load and certainly not in a way that would satisfy the guide. The size of the vehicle is not really relevant as loads still shift the same way.

As the load restraint guide points out, just because it has been done before doesn't mean it was done properly or safely. If someone has previously done this in a mini before (in the passenger seat area not the back of the moke or bini as shown previously) they were probably lucky not to have been involved in an accident and had the engine tip over on them. In that case voiding your insurance (ring Shannons or someone, a drum kit and an engine are two different things) would probably be the best outcome.

For anyone who disagrees with me I'd rather point out the pitfalls and successfully discourage bad practice than say nothing and be giving condolences to a relative or the forum in general later on.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:29 am 
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A work colleague of mine was killed back in the 60's when his car rolled and a suitcase from the back seat hit his head.

A favourite photo that advanced driver training instructors use is the example of a steering wheel lock embedded in someones head. Melways, tools, tissue boxes, bottles etc can cause significant injuries.

Anything not properly secured inside the car can become a lethal item!


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 Post subject: Re: Engine transport
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:30 pm 
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Would be interesting for traffic accident investigator surveying the scene. One car, two engines.
You're right about objects becoming projectiles but if you put it in a transit van and had head on it would still end up on road in front of you. You could use 2000kg tie straps but what are you going to hook them to in a van.


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