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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:36 pm 
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There ain't one on AUSMINI, should there be one?

If one of the main reasons for having all the other registers is to protect buyers from scammers etc then we should have something on Rover Mini...Yes :?:

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You want to start one and be the admin of it?
That's the problem people often don't want the responsibility.

I don't want to do [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:54 am 
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Bubbacluby wrote:
You want to start one and be the admin of it?
That's the problem people often don't want the responsibility.

I don't want to do [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]

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Hey Bubba...probably not....in my life, I have taken plenty of responsibility...and wore/suffered the crap that sometimes accompanies putting your hand up! :roll:

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9YaTaH wrote:
Bubbacluby wrote:
You want to start one and be the admin of it?
That's the problem people often don't want the responsibility.

I don't want to do [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]

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Hey Bubba...probably not....in my life, I have taken plenty of responsibility...and wore/suffered the crap that sometimes accompanies putting your hand up! :roll:


Too late, we all stepped back :lol: :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:19 pm 
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There ain't one on AUSMINI, should there be one?

If one of the main reasons for having all the other registers is to protect buyers from scammers etc then we should have something on Rover Mini...Yes :?:

The idea of having an Australian vehicle Register started with the Cooper S because some subtle changes to a Mini DeLuxe or Mini K could result in a car being sold as something it is not and for a much higher price. This not only reflects badly on the individual creating the replica but, to a lesser extent, on the Mini enthusiast community, which includes this forum. The lack of factory production records makes it difficult for non-experts to authenticate a genuine Cooper S and easier for those intent on faking a car.

Watto and a few others started collecting Australian Cooper S data several decades ago. In late 2015 Ausmini management saw a benefit and hence agreed to host Mark 1 and Mark 2 registers using combined historical data from several sources. Mini Cooper and Clubman GT registers followed on for similar reasons.

Maintenance of the source data for these registers takes quite a bit of effort by volunteers and the effort to manipulate it and present in a clear format also takes time.

Work is underway on publishing a Australian Morris 850 register, of sorts. Since over 61,000 of these were built it isn't feasible or practical to create a full register so the intent is to include representative data covering the production period. The aim is to present sufficient information to help answer the questions most asked - "When was my Morris 850 built, what engine number range would apply and what were the common colours for that period".

Inclusion of other registers such as the Mini Matic, Mini LS and now the Rover Mini has been suggested. As already mentioned these all require someone to take ownership for the data collection, cleansing and presentation, so there needs to be a clear benefit if Ausmini is to be involved. Of course there are other options people can take to host such lists outside of this forum.

Sorry for the long introduction but I thought it worth doing so the full extent of the suggestion is understood.

Comments welcome. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:26 pm 
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Do the British Heritage certificates cover the Rover Minis too? They kept better records than over here.

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^^ keeping a register of Rovers is pretty pointless, the special models have their own registers, and any other rover is just another rover, what are you going to be ripped off with...

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Too late, we all stepped back :lol: :roll:


Hah! all ex-Military no doubt...Rule #1 never volunteer :D

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9YaTaH wrote:
There ain't one on AUSMINI, should there be one?

If one of the main reasons for having all the other registers is to protect buyers from scammers etc then we should have something on Rover Mini...Yes :?:

The idea of having an Australian vehicle Register started with the Cooper S because some subtle changes to a Mini DeLuxe or Mini K could result in a car being sold as something it is not and for a much higher price. This not only reflects badly on the individual creating the replica but, to a lesser extent, on the Mini enthusiast community, which includes this forum. The lack of factory production records makes it difficult for non-experts to authenticate a genuine Cooper S and easier for those intent on faking a car.

Watto and a few others started collecting Australian Cooper S data several decades ago. In late 2015 Ausmini management saw a benefit and hence agreed to host Mark 1 and Mark 2 registers using combined historical data from several sources. Mini Cooper and Clubman GT registers followed on for similar reasons.

Maintenance of the source data for these registers takes quite a bit of effort by volunteers and the effort to manipulate it and present in a clear format also takes time.

Work is underway on publishing a Australian Morris 850 register, of sorts. Since over 61,000 of these were built it isn't feasible or practical to create a full register so the intent is to include representative data covering the production period. The aim is to present sufficient information to help answer the questions most asked - "When was my Morris 850 built, what engine number range would apply and what were the common colours for that period".

Inclusion of other registers such as the Mini Matic, Mini LS and now the Rover Mini has been suggested. As already mentioned these all require someone to take ownership for the data collection, cleansing and presentation, so there needs to be a clear benefit if Ausmini is to be involved. Of course there are other options people can take to host such lists outside of this forum.

Sorry for the long introduction but I thought it worth doing so the full extent of the suggestion is understood.

Comments welcome. :)


Tah...the more information out there on what Registrars are up to...the better.

As for Simes thoughts, the Japanese models and UK imports are just as interesting a subject on their own as K vs Deluxe etc (maybe not to Simon, but certainly to others)...

Timmy and Klas recent posts for example...

I don't think any factory NA Rovers put out 75hp..

The "Cooper S" models listed on the net are John Cooper tuned minis, and not really a factory job.

The best factory effort was the MG Metro with 72HP

Interestingly the 1990 carb Mini Cooper uses the same engine but is only rated 60HP..... looks like early emissions control choked it quite a bit

1990 - Mini Cooper 1275 - 61ps / 60hp http://www.minipassionmini.50megs.com/p ... 201990.pdf

1992 - Mini Sprite & Mayfair (1275) - 50ps / 49hp 685-710kg

1992 - Mini Cooper 1.3i - 63ps / 62hp http://www.minipassionmini.50megs.com/p ... 201992.pdf

1996 - Cooper 35 edition - 63ps / 62hp http://www.minipassionmini.50megs.com/p ... 201996.pdf

1998 - Mini 1.3i & Cooper 1.3i - 63ps / 62hp http://www.minipassionmini.50megs.com/p ... 201998.pdf

Of course, you could go and spend lots of money with John Cooper...
http://www.minipassionmini.50megs.com/p ... 201992.pdf
http://www.minipassionmini.50megs.com/p ... 201994.pdf
http://www.minipassionmini.50megs.com/p ... 997-98.pdf
http://www.minipassionmini.50megs.com/p ... %20SSE.pdf

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:46 pm 
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Are you talking about a doing a "how to identify a rover" and the different specs that were available like the classic register does http://classicregister.com/id-guides/node_title=mini
or do you want a list of car vin numbers /sale date /paint code/ engine number/ like the cooper s register?


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or do you want a list of car vin numbers /sale date /paint code/ engine number/ like the cooper s register?


A Register, is just that, not a buyers guide or model ID guide...although one of those accompanying each Register ain't a bad idea either...

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The UK Mini Cooper club has an existing register of Rover Coopers:
http://www.minicooper.org/rover-cooper-register/

Then you have a bunch of specific model registers eg:
http://www.2000miniregister.co.uk/stats.html
http://coopersport500register.co.uk/CS5 ... mmary.html
http://www.mini25.com/
http://www.paulsmithmini.co.uk/
http://www.minispecialregister.com/
http://www.rsp-cooper-register.co.uk/index.htm
http://www.minidesigner.co.uk/

They made that many different Special Edition cars too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... d_editions
There are many guides on how to identify VIN numbers. Only 1997 to 2000 and pre 1988 models can currently be imported.
http://www.minimania.com/Mini_Chassis_V ... s__Part_II

Although, as above I'm not sure how much use a register would be to a person looking to buy a Rover?

If you're only interested in cars imported to Australia, possibly the import workshops will have a list of cars, possibly the RMS/equivalent would have some idea?
http://www.ozcooper.com.au/

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The UK Mini Cooper club has an existing register of Rover Coopers:
http://www.minicooper.org/rover-cooper-register/

Then you have a bunch of specific model registers eg:
http://www.2000miniregister.co.uk/stats.html
http://coopersport500register.co.uk/CS5 ... mmary.html
http://www.mini25.com/
http://www.paulsmithmini.co.uk/
http://www.minispecialregister.com/
http://www.rsp-cooper-register.co.uk/index.htm
http://www.minidesigner.co.uk/

They made that many different Special Edition cars too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... d_editions
There are many guides on how to identify VIN numbers. Only 1997 to 2000 and pre 1988 models can currently be imported.
http://www.minimania.com/Mini_Chassis_V ... s__Part_II

Although, as above I'm not sure how much use a register would be to a person looking to buy a Rover?

If you're only interested in cars imported to Australia, possibly the import workshops will have a list of cars, possibly the RMS/equivalent would have some idea?
http://www.ozcooper.com.au/


Thanks Timmy...now if this and couple more of your posts were made into a "sticky"...it could added to a an Australian Rover Mini Register :wink: :D

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:53 pm 
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Putting together some info would be easy enough.. I can do that, I'm not interested in running a Rover register though.

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Copy that!

I notice that an acquaintances Oz Cooper 500 is on a UK register...but

Were all Jap Spec Mini's tracked/recorded by UK Registrars?
Were all Jap Spec Mini's re-exported to Oz tracked/recorded by UK Registrars?

The other thing that could be updated is a list of Oz Mini businesses who have Rover Mini capability...diagnostics etc..Greig Malure at Classic Mini and Oz Mini Cooper used to be on the list that I know of...

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