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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:52 pm 
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This may be a silly question, but..... I am putting a supercharger on my moke (big wheel model 13inch), and will be swapping the diff to a 3.44 that I have in a gearbox in the shed. What speedo drive should I be fitting? the one from the original moke gearbox or the old mini one with the 3.44 diff?
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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:04 pm 
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Try plugging your tyre/diff/gearbox info in here and seeing how it looks. Do you know the tpm (or tpk) of the speedos?
http://guess-works.com/Tech/ratio.htm

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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:33 pm 
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mooman10_0 wrote:
This may be a silly question, but..... I am putting a supercharger on my moke (big wheel model 13inch), and will be swapping the diff to a 3.44 that I have in a gearbox in the shed. What speedo drive should I be fitting? the one from the original moke gearbox or the old mini one with the 3.44 diff?
Thanks,
Steve


Yep...try swapping the old mini one with the 3.44 diff...the difference between 10s and 13s may be acceptable...

If it were me, I would leave it as it is till you see what it shows at speed on the road :idea:

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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:59 pm 
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So the speedo drive goes with the diff? I was wondering if speedo drive stayed with wheel size?. Speedo will be a new smiths one , no idea what tpm is, lol


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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:01 pm 
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Mokes have larger diameter wheels..

The diff ratio, speedo need to be matched with the two drive gears in the end of the gearbox. TPM is turns per mile and TPK is turns per km for metric units
http://guess-works.com/Tech/speedo.htm

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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:36 pm 
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I am changing to 3.44 diff at suggestion of supercharger builder in uk so i wont be changing gears every second. The original speedo drive is from the original moke gearbox 4.27 ( something like that), speedo will be a brand new smiths unit in km/ph. Just not sure which speedo drive would suit best, may be a case of trial and error?


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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:42 pm 
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If you know the tyre size and TPM/TPK of the new speedo there is a worm and pinion gear calculator I linked in the first reply:
http://guess-works.com/Tech/ratio.htm

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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:03 pm 
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Tyres will be 185 60 13 but as for the tpk im not sure ?


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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:17 pm 
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All Australian minis and mokes use the same speedo drive gears in the gearbox, it's the speedo head that differs. The tpm/tpk should be on the speedo face near the centre, then use the Guessworks calculator to figure out what drive gears will get you closest.

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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:50 pm 
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I was planning on buying a brand new speedo, does that mean i should ask them to make it suit my wheel size?


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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:55 pm 
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So we actually have multiple speedo problems to consider...maybe we should all wait till the dust settles :D

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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:09 am 
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You could fit the Smiths electronic one, then program it until perfect. Not cheap but a good solution. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:36 am 
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I do like that option :-) i can see that you buy a speedo sensor to suit, would your fuel wire just plug straight to it or need something in between? Anyone used one?


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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:28 am 
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James in Wollongong has just fitted one. Fuel gauge connects as normal.
Speed sensor screws onto gearbox where cable was.

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 Post subject: Re: speedo question
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:45 am 
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Awesome, thanks. Will definately go down this route after saving a few more pennies!


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