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 Post subject: Re: BPR5ES or BPR6ES
PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:34 pm 
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I would second Doc's recommendation...for Flashlube.

I think the last litre I bought cost about $16..(you don't buy it very often :) and that's enough to treat 1000 litres (250 odd US gallons)..that works out to about 4c for every fill of the tank. Cheap insurance.

As Deluxe pointed out, Gunk is a solvent not a valve seat treatment.

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 Post subject: Re: BPR5ES or BPR6ES
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:45 am 
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I looked up the Flashlube MSDS but it tells you nothing about composition.
Says it's not flammable, which surprised me.

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 Post subject: Re: BPR5ES or BPR6ES
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:33 am 
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I put in the Gunk Lead Additive and the car runs perfect, just a few minor tweaks.

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 Post subject: Re: BPR5ES or BPR6ES
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:53 am 
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GuamMini wrote:
I put in the Gunk Lead Additive and the car runs perfect, just a few minor tweaks.


The trouble is, Jim, that these products won't (or shouldn't;) really have any immediate observable effect on how your car runs.... in 10thousand miles or so though, when things start to get a bit lumpy, you find you'll be out of pocket big time to repair the damage that has snuck up on you.

In a quick look I couldn't find anything technical on the Gunk product. But its a big company and been in business a long time so maybe they know something. Your problem is making sure that the product you buy is the one you need for your engine..ie something that is specifically intended to protect valve seats.... Most of the comments I see about Gunk and valve noise etc centres around cleaning hydraulic lifters (which you don't have).

As has been said, lead has 2 basic functions in fuel; octane support and valve seat protection. Some materials (like toluene) will raise octane ratings ..and so may be considered a "lead substitute" but won't protect the seat... :(

If you see inclusions such as sodium or potassium mentioned in the product blurb then there's an indication that the manufacturer is looking to protect valve seats...

Cheers, Ian


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 Post subject: Re: BPR5ES or BPR6ES
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:30 am 
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1071 S wrote:
GuamMini wrote:
I put in the Gunk Lead Additive and the car runs perfect, just a few minor tweaks.


The trouble is, Jim, that these products won't (or shouldn't;) really have any immediate observable effect on how your car runs.... in 10thousand miles or so though, when things start to get a bit lumpy, you find you'll be out of pocket big time to repair the damage that has snuck up on you.

In a quick look I couldn't find anything technical on the Gunk product. But its a big company and been in business a long time so maybe they know something. Your problem is making sure that the product you buy is the one you need for your engine..ie something that is specifically intended to protect valve seats.... Most of the comments I see about Gunk and valve noise etc centres around cleaning hydraulic lifters (which you don't have).

As has been said, lead has 2 basic functions in fuel; octane support and valve seat protection. Some materials (like toluene) will raise octane ratings ..and so may be considered a "lead substitute" but won't protect the seat... :(

If you see inclusions such as sodium or potassium mentioned in the product blurb then there's an indication that the manufacturer is looking to protect valve seats...

Cheers, Ian



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Gunk Lead Substitute allows older engines designed for use with "leaded" gasoline to run safely with low lead or unleaded fuels when used as directed. Protects against valve and valve seat damage in engines with "soft" valves by coating parts with a protective film designed to prevent valve recession.

Replaces lead protection
Contains valve seat anti-wear additive
Intended for off-road use
Allows older engines designed for leaded gas to use unleaded gasolineCall for Case Price

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 Post subject: Re: BPR5ES or BPR6ES
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:11 am 
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I think there has been a mixup with the oil treatment that cleans up sludge and quietens noisy lifters. The product you are using is correct for valve seat protection.


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 Post subject: Re: BPR5ES or BPR6ES
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:50 am 
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If you want a proper lead additive/octane booster get in contact with Hans at HP Peformance.

http://www.hi-flow.com/HP016OS.html


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