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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:23 pm 
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Wolfman wrote:
For a start they need to restrict the sale of anything above 4cyl to industry and rural.

You'll see a lot of people registering their vehicles to the "summer house".

RATIONING! That's the caper. Allocated say 2,000 litres per year. That means mini owners can sell their excess on the black market, spend it on carbon fibre body panels to make their cars lighter and save even more fuel.

Who said it would be horrible and bleak?
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A rationing system would be good - but the government should step in and at the very least cap the price and absorb the cost into the coffers. Like Japan we have a stockpile of oil for emergencies so this also should be released to the general public(over 600,000 ++ barrells sitting around the country...). We as defence should cut back too - a Guided missile frigate uses at full speed 2500 gallons of fuel every hour - nearly 8 tons of super refined diesel...i am sure we could cut back too...

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Stuwey_LS wrote:
The other alternative is Methanol.

Its made from sugar cane, is unleaded, safer than traditional petrol, cheap, and it totally renews itself in 11 years. :wink:

Another problem with methanol (apart from current exorbidant pricing) is its calorific value is low- it will give you about 1/3 of whatever MPG you enjoy now.
Carb jets etc need to flow about 3x what is needed for petrol.....

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Did someone say electric mini?
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/electric.mini/index.html

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I understand there's some techy guys in the States who drag race electric cars. Electric motors have ENORMOUS levels of torque, like tyre-shreading torque, so apparently these guys get some heads turning with unbelievably rapid cars.

Only problem I can see is they must sound like a Scalectrix car surely?

This one runs ETs of 12.07s...
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CPOCSM wrote:
A rationing system would be good - but the government should step in and at the very least cap the price and absorb the cost into the coffers. Like Japan we have a stockpile of oil for emergencies so this also should be released to the general public(over 600,000 ++ barrells sitting around the country...). We as defence should cut back too - a Guided missile frigate uses at full speed 2500 gallons of fuel every hour - nearly 8 tons of super refined diesel...i am sure we could cut back too...

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the stockpile of oil is for emergencies.. expensive fuel is not an emergency..
the stockpile is to keep the jets in the air when the sh** hits the fan


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Nuclear energy.
Cars are the least of our problems. Energy can be in many forms. We burn fossil fuels for cars cause we are on the tail end of the industrial era. Soon new and different things will abound to give us energy. Primarily nuclear in the short to medium term( our lifetime taken care or.). Solar, wind, tide, orbit, who knows will be next. The people involved in the first mini couldn't believe we would be talking about them all over the world using computers. Where we will be in the next 40 is anyones guess. We will continue. Things will change more in the next 20 than they have in the last 20.
Energy technology is the next big big big boom. Get on board. $1.30 is the beginning.


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but you cant run personal transport on nuclear power..


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Of course you can.
Nuclear energy can be converted to portable energy. Hydrogen for example can be created from electrical energy. Inefficiently at this stage but it will get more efficient as need requires.
The good news is Mini's will rule the road soon enough. for the meantime.
Check the FPV and HSV and Mustang... etc forums. They are feeling it worse than us.
It is going to be a new world out there.

Doom isn't as impending as this thread suggest though.


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dude, i've already given up hope..
and its all angusdog's fault!


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Ah ha ha ha!!! Well, better to be informed.

Incidentally, the world's stock of uranium is sufficient for existing nuclear stations for 25 - 40 years. Building new stations to generate hydrogen will bring that down dramatically.

So this is a sea change which we will see in our lifetime. It would be wise to keep an eye on this and be aware.

Petrol in NZ went up again last night. 91 octange = NZ$1.56.


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Angusdog wrote:

Only problem I can see is they must sound like a Scalectrix car surely?

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Hahaha :lol: That would turn me off! I dun care how good it goes if it sounds like a 12V fan on heat :wink:

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