Look at a photo of a rover and then a Mk1.
The door has square corners, and is taller, like the rear side windows.
The entire side of the car needs replacing!!!

Because of the cross section of the door you will not get anything wider than a piano hinge in there.

I know a few ways a MK1 could have internal hinges without body mods, but they are still completely impracticle or hard to do. I think the externals are cool too.
If I get a rover Im putting them on!

95% sure you'll need the B pillars as well as the hingeless doors are different shape at the back as well as the front when compared to our local ones . Might be easier to start experimenting with some scratch built hinges till you find a setup that works if you still want to go that way but remember you'll have to get anything you make engineered before it can be a road car . Would be a fun project though if you've got a dodgy shell you weren't too fussed about .

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no no... the window gives you something to look into..

the doors give you somewhere to enter

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Go look at a Rover, and compare it to an Oz shell. No way would I tackle it, and I'm a qualified welder, among other things.

BTW the internal hinges (and what they are attached to) have a reputation for going tits up, too.

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Mind you , this is still the old "whatever you've got , you want something different" thing . I've seen external hinge stickers for sale in English mags that actually from a distance look realistic , they have a thin black outline for the top and a shaded section where the shaddow underside would be . Don't know for certain but I'd say someone at some stage was marketting stick on hinges as well . I've owned both , internal hinged doors were more like a modern car's , closed easier and in the early 90's had the effect of being a people magnet at mini run's because it was different . External hinges are just purely mini and look good on our mini's . Each to their own on this one I guess .....

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hmm ok... well it seems to hard ill give up too lol

Back when I was planning my mini roadster, internal hinges were on the menu. Yes, I DO know exactly what it takes to fit Rover doors to a Morris shell....... and in simple terms, you replace everything between the front and rear seams.

What exactly do I mean by everything????

Okay, here is what you do.

Remove one of your door seals..... all of it. Can you see that lip that the seal was pressed onto?? It is made up of 2 (and sometimes 3) layers of steel.

What you need to do is:
* seperate those 2 or 3 layers around the door
* seperate the 2 layers around the side window
* seperate the front and rear seams
* seperate the lip that runs along the bottom of the door between the bottom of the wheel arches
* seperate the roof gutter layers along the sides.....

.... and then pull the whole side AND wing panel away from the rest of the car, like so.


**** ^^^ please note that the wing panel should still be attatched, you need to replace it with the new one.***

Now you take the same side panel that was salvaged from a Rover (or UK Leyland) and graft it onto your car. You will replace the hinge mount locations, door frame, b-pillar door catch, side window frame, etc etc...... everything on the outside of your door seal and side window seal.

This is the easiest "proper" way. Its just a matter of keeping everything square before it's welded back together. Your car will probably sag when the sides are removed, making reassembly a fair bit harder

Not impossible, but pretty f**kn close to it.

Oh, by the way...... the frame and doors I WAS going to use for my roadster are still at Brickworx, ready to go. BUT I think these sides were cut off just behind the door frame - you should be able to graft it to your existing rear side panels...... Give him a call and see if he'll sell em to ya (8297-9494)

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thats awsome cheers for the help

Getting the original side panels off the car will take you a very_long_time, simply because those 2 layers of steel need to be seperated without ruining the one that stays on the car. There would be a few hundred spot welds to drill out at a minimum...... or you could hack the original panels off with a jigsaw and then grind the mating edges flat. There probably wouldnt be a problem with leaving both layers of the seal lip and then welding the new lip to the outside of both.... the panel would only be 1.5mm further out.....

Once you get the replacement panel alongside the project car, things will become alot clearer.... you'll be able to see exactly what needs to be removed or kept from both panels. You may even talk yourself out of it at that point

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