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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:37 am 
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But then,,, we have just purchased a full quad 38mm throttle body injector assys of a motorbike for $100 off e-bay,,,Hhhhhmmmmm, :-)
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I'd like to see this more, ther's so much of this stuff available, and they go to waste on wreckers shelves.

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Not much out there that will beat a """"WELL SET UP"""" pair of 1&3/4 SUs, that`s my view & i`ve had it for well over 30 years now & won`t be changing it for anyone

SUs are the go tho,,,webers/dellortos are very inefficient in comparison.

Hmmm so how many FAST guys are running twin SUs on Nb and Nc racecars then... 8)
Hey I'm not TOO biased, we have twin HS4s on one and a 45 Dello on the other. 8) I like both. SUs give better fuel economy and low speed drivability, Webers and Dellortos have way better throttle response- at the expense of fuel economy.

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would they be hard to start in the morning, like when its freezing in mid winter

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I like my SU's there quiet and on a daily.... i like that.

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would they be hard to start in the morning, like when its freezing in mid winter

Not at all- pull choke if connected up, pump throttle once or twice, then Vrrrrrrrroom! 8)

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buztoy wrote:
would they be hard to start in the morning, like when its freezing in mid winter


Nah, just two pumps of the throttle and you're off. No choke needed :wink:

I loved my weber.

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Totally agree about engine noise etc. I have the dellorto on the mini because if I wanted quiet ride, I'd drive the corolla :wink: Lillee isn't my daily driver so I welcome the noise and fumes 8)

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My current motor is been rebuilt to pretty much race spec, my next project to be a race car I am stuck on deciding to spend the exxtra dollars to finish it off by adding a Cross Flow 8 port and wack another webber on it and a few other pieces or go Jap conversion?

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webbers sound good... but on my daily i love my 1 3/4. bullshit about the throtle response, i dont know why people say that? I have drive cars with a dello and i found the throtle response on my motor better, its very crisp and instant. on a stock motor with no power maybe a webber does something there but on my 1293 i have never ever felt my carby lacking in performance or throtle response.
not to say that webbers are not good, i cant say ive had all that much to do with them, and yes they sound good.


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Not too sure about the rules of the old appendix J (group N) but i was lead to believe that you needed to use the old style twin SU manifold & not allowd to take metal out, but can add metal ??? (i`ve been out of that scene for some time now so rules have probly changed somewhat)... I like setting these things up on the late 4 bolt style twin carb manifold but highly modified my own (my dad`s) way,,, they`re pretty dam spectacular when done well & i havn`t managed to better that set up with a weber/dellorto -->yet. Dam heck, i even ran a "SINGLE" SU on my alloy V8 powered VW Kombie Ute & the dam thing was so good it could wheelstand away, yet idle along happilly at 200rpms in the soft boggy beach sand,,, only have to ask all the Turbo charged datsun boys about all their SUs & see what they say. very hard to beat the good old SU.

most times when people fit a weber/dellorto & find improvement is when the old SU package wasn`t (or most probabl;y wasn`t) set up well in the first place & you`ll get the same stories from people swapping back from a weber to an SU (or pair of them) from the same type of problem where the weber was poorly set up & the SU(s) replacement was set up well.

I also like them both tho, but it`s a matter of "Horses for courses", i prefer the twin 1" & 3/4SUs on my roady as it gives me heaps of grunt & plenty of hi speed flow yet quiet & economical when needed/wanted

I run the weber for the speedway mini simply for the sake of ease & simplicity.

But i`m leaning more & more to the injection side of things these days so carbs to me are becoming "old hat" even tho i still love em :-)

They`re all easy, cheap & simple tho --->compared to injection,,,i`ve been mucking around for ages now with injection & starting to think that i shouldn`t have bothered, but we are actually getting somewhere with it all now, just painfully slow progress doing it all myself without the use of a dyno (YET) :-) when i`ve got this all a bit better & i`ll have learnt a hell of a lot more along the way, then i`ll hit the dyno & see what we have & what more we can do. :-)

whew!!!,,,ok i`m goin back to work

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yeah i've always had a single SU, and i've never had any problems keeping up with the weber boys haha :lol:


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yeah... webers are awsome on minis...

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Haha smart ass, lol webber barbie and a mini.

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Mini Mad wrote:
you can actually FEEL the butterfly's opening and closing...


feels good when it opens hey... :?: :lol: :lol:

(couldnt help but point that out :oops:

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Betty wrote:
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you can actually FEEL the butterfly's opening and closing...


feels good when it opens hey... :?: :lol: :lol:

(couldnt help but point that out :oops:


Are you being dirty? :shock: :oops: :lol:

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