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It is funny how window nets are not allowed in historics just like advertising is not allowed (Bianti Model Cars on all the windscreens)
The Historic boys just don't like consistency. 8)

Nearly as funny as how they don't allow/insist on rollover bars etc in old open sports cars. Like that poor guy that rolled his Austin 7 special at Murwillumbah a while back. :cry: :evil:

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looking at this shot

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it doesn't look like he hit the apex that hard at all....

just looks like he had the shoebox right at the limit of tyre deformation and just got a little nudge from the apex that sent him rolling over onto the sidewall......

we won't mention (in perfect 20/20 hindsight) what he "should've" done with the round thing in his hands.. :P

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cush wrote:
looking at this shot

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it doesn't look like he hit the apex that hard at all....
Those kerbs are fairly high and with the ramp angle if you hit it right you will get a lot of lift.
You may also notice the white line next to the kerb, you are not allowed to cross the white line. Kerb jumping is illegal and you may be black flagged for it. (except if you drive a V8 and then it is mandatory to hit the kerbs) :roll:


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The ripple strip is very high and did act like a ramp. he also went ito the corner VERY deep.

I will upload video soon.

Dave has more experience and probably ability than the combined total of this board so I'm sure he did all he could to save it. WIth regard to ripple strips you are allowed to ride them (the white line means nothing) you just cant stradle them putting a wheel on either side as per this pic.

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Roll over bars on old open wheelers are allowed they are just not compulsory. It appears it's the same for WIndow nets though I would question this as they are a safety item that requires no structural changes unlike roll bars.

Not long ago the historic guys did not need to run safety harness. I once saw a guy hit the wall at Oran Park, fly out of his car, head but the concrete wall and bounce back into his seat. Luckily he was wearing more than a pudding bowl helmet.


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ozmotorsport wrote:
you just cant stradle them putting a wheel on either side as per this pic.


Try telling that to the Truck racers!!, I think it's funny how they accelerate and corner the same whether on tar or dirt :lol:

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ozmotorsport wrote:
WIth regard to ripple strips you are allowed to ride them (the white line means nothing)
That is not what they say at the drivers briefings. :roll:
At one track it was said at the briefing that the track was the bit between the white lines and you could not use the ripple strip. I pointed out that on that track the white line was behind the ripple strip! :P


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Some of my shots from Friday on the top of the Mountain
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That is not what they say at the drivers briefings.
At one track it was said at the briefing that the track was the bit between the white lines and you could not use the ripple strip. I pointed out that on that track the white line was behind the ripple strip!


This is the problem with inconsistancy. Last time at Oran Park they said " We will not telerate drivers drivers cutting corners and hanging wheels off the far side of a ripple strip dragging dirt onto the track. If they dont want people driving over ripple strips stop putting concrete there for them to use (as you can see in my pic)


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ozmotorsport wrote:
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That is not what they say at the drivers briefings.
At one track it was said at the briefing that the track was the bit between the white lines and you could not use the ripple strip. I pointed out that on that track the white line was behind the ripple strip!


This is the problem with inconsistancy. Last time at Oran Park they said " We will not telerate drivers drivers cutting corners and hanging wheels off the far side of a ripple strip dragging dirt onto the track. If they dont want people driving over ripple strips stop putting concrete there for them to use (as you can see in my pic)
All they need to do is plant a gum tree on the apex. (It worked at Silverdale Hillclimb) :twisted:
Oran Pk has been ruined by adding bits on the inside and outside of corners. I remember when the dogleg was two corners! :lol:


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Don't see a trace of opposite lock anywhere!!!


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I spoke to GOD today (GR) & the news is DJW will be rebuilding the car :D

The safety cage stopped any major damage to the structure of the car and will require less work than building a whole new car!

Can't wait since Greig's been too lazy to enter his beast :P :wink:

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The real culprit in the accident is the Hoosiers! If the car was on radials the front end would most likely have slid wide before rolling the car. Hoosiers have so much grip they will put the car on its roof before you have time to react.

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