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 Post subject: Hume Bros Mini
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:02 pm 
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I thought that the Hume Bros rotary was sold a number of years ago as a roller? I had the chance to purchase the car twelve months ago from a chap in Ballarat who was going to supply a VW tranaxle in the deal.

As for rotary powered minis, I know of one that still exists in Werribee, fitted with a 10A, which under CAMS fits in the U2 litre category.

I've tried my hardest to drag my car out for the Doug Byrne memorial but time beat me. I'II still be there though.

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would you two get a room.... :P


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feralsprint wrote:
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When I am talking to someone and it concerns you feel free to waste space but otherwise shut the hell up or I will biatch slap ya like ya mamma does

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cush wrote:
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When I am talking to someone and it concerns you feel free to waste space but otherwise shut the hell up or I will biatch slap ya like ya mamma does

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relax e' vu, tiger...



Looks at cush post count looks for any post that has helped apart from tin foil bling :lol: score for cush 99% spam 1% useful

Now looks at topic rotary in mini looks at what Jon and 1100 were talking...........................................rotary in a mini, legality of rotary in a mini for racing, still on topic. Number of times Cush has stayed on topic :lol: never :lol:

I is gunna have to come over and biatch slap ya cush :lol: now go and finish the tin foil bling :lol:

I gotta work really hard to get my post count up to match cush who in and extra year has and extra 5500 posts :lol:
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I think a Rotary in amini would be a great idea. good weight, great size

as far as gearboxes go:
Theirs a rumor that I have heard...,don't know how true, that a Cordia gearbox can be modified to bolt up to a 12A or 13B reasonably easily. (sould be able to find cordia boxes cheap as)

The gearboxes are ment to be reasonably strong. Just an idea and I have no proof.

Although you would think that if it was easy it would be done more. However the argument of reliability are about on par with a A series for spitting the dummy when tuned.

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I have looked into this seriously before but I put the idea away as I came along a problem with the 13b with the clutch and flywheel, it doesn't like the way a mini gearbox is designed but ssaying that I thought of a few ideas to fix that. So not impossible. Also when I first researched this I found that there is a Mini racing in the UK with a 12A turbo on a FWD corolla gearbox. Didn't say what model of corolla though. I wouldn't do anything other than 13B. My dad said he had a 10A in his RX3 Savannah but according to my reasearch it must have been a 12A if it were original, anyways... he was getting 20 to 30 thousand miles out of each engine!!! :shock: Yes they were cheap, but DAM!!! 13B is said to be a HUGE improvement!

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I have looked into this seriously before but I put the idea away as I came along a problem with the 13b with the clutch and flywheel, it doesn't like the way a mini gearbox is designed but ssaying that I thought of a few ideas to fix that. So not impossible. Also when I first researched this I found that there is a Mini racing in the UK with a 12A turbo on a FWD corolla gearbox. Didn't say what model of corolla though. I wouldn't do anything other than 13B. My dad said he had a 10A in his RX3 Savannah but according to my reasearch it must have been a 12A if it were original, anyways... he was getting 20 to 30 thousand miles out of each engine!!! :shock: Yes they were cheap, but DAM!!! 13B is said to be a HUGE improvement!


10A's had heaps of problems. RX3 came out 10A & 12A in Aust, grill is the easy spot to tell as it's completely different for either model.

I would consider 12A out of RX-7, I've seen big km's out of these and many improvements were made over early RX2/3 engines. Fuel consumption lower than 13B except renesis too.

As for getting onto Mini Box, I have engineered solution but I would use FWD gearbox as it would cost less and be easier.

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slinkey inc wrote:
My dad said he had a 10A in his RX3 Savannah but according to my reasearch it must have been a 12A if it were original, anyways... he was getting 20 to 30 thousand miles out of each engine!!! :shock: Yes they were cheap, but DAM!!! 13B is said to be a HUGE improvement!
They came with both motors, the one I raced had to have a 10A because of the class it raced in. (NSW Street Sedans) If you wanted to race a 12A in Touring cars you had to use the later grille and taillights.


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slinkey inc wrote:
I have looked into this seriously before but I put the idea away as I came along a problem with the 13b with the clutch and flywheel, it doesn't like the way a mini gearbox is designed but ssaying that I thought of a few ideas to fix that. So not impossible. Also when I first researched this I found that there is a Mini racing in the UK with a 12A turbo on a FWD corolla gearbox. Didn't say what model of corolla though. I wouldn't do anything other than 13B. My dad said he had a 10A in his RX3 Savannah but according to my reasearch it must have been a 12A if it were original, anyways... he was getting 20 to 30 thousand miles out of each engine!!! :shock: Yes they were cheap, but DAM!!! 13B is said to be a HUGE improvement!


10A's had heaps of problems. RX3 came out 10A & 12A in Aust, grill is the easy spot to tell as it's completely different for either model.

I would consider 12A out of RX-7, I've seen big km's out of these and many improvements were made over early RX2/3 engines. Fuel consumption lower than 13B except renesis too.

As for getting onto Mini Box, I have engineered solution but I would use FWD gearbox as it would cost less and be easier.

Daniel


are you saying you have figured out a way to mount it to the mini g/box or..... other,

i cant beleive that pic with the 13b and rotor g/box in a civic, its nearly half the length of my car,

oh and redline rotary had a 10a pp that could rev past the 12 mark,

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 Post subject: Rools
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Morris 1100 wrote:
slinkey inc wrote:
My dad said he had a 10A in his RX3 Savannah but according to my reasearch it must have been a 12A if it were original, anyways... he was getting 20 to 30 thousand miles out of each engine!!! :shock: Yes they were cheap, but DAM!!! 13B is said to be a HUGE improvement!
They came with both motors, the one I raced had to have a 10A because of the class it raced in. (NSW Street Sedans) If you wanted to race a 12A in Touring cars you had to use the later grille and taillights.


Gee....tailights and grill....weren't they tough in those days :P

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are you saying you have figured out a way to mount it to the mini g/box or..... other


Nope not really, just figured out why it can't be done, but that's not true, anything can be done just isn't easy. You would need to machine off somthing or someway of joining the main shaft thing to the gearbox, I considered chain drive but I don't like that. Much prefer geardrive. I can't actaully desribe why it can't be done...easily. I took a tech drawing of a 13B and a tech drawing of an A-series and looked at them. I was actaully trying to convince my dad to give me some money to start a project but... no, he didn't like it and said leave it to someone else to do. ie, you guys!

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buztoy wrote:
are you saying you have figured out a way to mount it to the mini g/box or..... other,

i cant beleive that pic with the 13b and rotor g/box in a civic, its nearly half the length of my car,

oh and redline rotary had a 10a pp that could rev past the 12 mark,


I have a concept drawing I did 10 years ago that would work for the Mini box. As I said in an earlier post I was offered a 10A already mounted but no idler sorted out. The concept is similar to the one offered but has an idler gear arrangement. Thinking now, you could use a chain instead of gears. If you were a toolmaker you could make it cheap, but paying someone it would be very costly.

It would be far cheaper & easier to modify the subframe to suit an end-on gearbox as the modern engines are. Also would be alot easier as you could use a conventional mazda clutch with a different spline to suit box.

Redline may have had a 10A PP doing 12k rpm, but try and buy a set of seals from Mazda now, they hardly have any 10A stuff, thats why I reckon 12A, millions were sold OS so would be heaps easier for the future to get parts if req'd.

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but try and buy a set of seals from Mazda now, they hardly have any 10A stuff, thats


actually you right on that, but there are other companies that do make the seal kits but their through the roof, 12a couldnt be all that longer than 10a, and if you can fit a 12a you can fit 13b,

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 Post subject: Rotary into Mini
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:03 pm 
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Performance Buildups Magazine has featured the New Zealand mini recently. 12A Turbo EFI, fitted on a Toyota Corona ST190 5 speed front wheel drive gearbox. Check out Vol16, No1.

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just found this pik i had....'



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