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Feralsprint... The price problem I do agree with. A 4EFTE front cut cost about 1000 - 1200 according to Adelaide Jap, 5 grand for a mini front cut is way over, should only be, at the most 1200. I was considering the front cut option at one point. Brickworx chargers for every extra option. Just a 998 and gearbox with discs isn't much at all. But 1.3i, with brake booster/cylinder with walnut dash (even more money for polished alloy!!) with rover 13inch wheels, with this and that it ends up at an extortionate 5 and half grand!! :shock: I reckon Brickworx may be making a bigger mark up that he should be, but that's his decision and it's a consumers decision whether or not to buy it.

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you might want to leave you're assuptions on business' pricing structures in private, champ...

unless you're absolutley certain you know you're up on all the facts...;)

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First of all, a majority of these front cuts do not come from wrecked vehicles. Most are perfectly good, rust and dent free, early/mid 90's minis that need to be chopped up before they get containered. If they didnt get chopped up you would be paying more, because a whole car takes up 4x more space for almost no more selling value. And the whole cars cant get complianced here, so why bother filling the container with the bits that wont sell.


Secondly, demand for Rover front cuts is SO high, that Steve basically sells them for a few hundred dollars less than what he can get if he split em all up into seperate pieces. Most of his frontcuts are sold from pictures, before they leave Japan.

They are sold for what they are worth....... which is why Starlets are so cheap - theyre not worth anything, and nobody wants em. You try advertising a Starlet brake booster and see how many people are waiting at your door.

Shop around all you want, or try to import one yourself if you think you can do better. You'll soon find out how many people you NEED to pay before it gets onto your trailer. Dont forget that you need to FIND the car in Japan too....


Its not just imports that are expensive. a completely stuffed BMC or Leyland 1275 still sells for $500 to $1000. Commodore engines sell for maybe 1 or 2 hundred. Why? Cos theyre not worth anything and nobody wants em.


Nobody is forcing you to buy one, but other people are more than willing to take your place in the queue. :wink:

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Feralsprint... The price problem I do agree with. A 4EFTE front cut cost about 1000 - 1200 according to Adelaide Jap, 5 grand for a mini front cut is way over, should only be, at the most 1200. I was considering the front cut option at one point. Brickworx chargers for every extra option. Just a 998 and gearbox with discs isn't much at all. But 1.3i, with brake booster/cylinder with walnut dash (even more money for polished alloy!!) with rover 13inch wheels, with this and that it ends up at an extortionate 5 and half grand!! :shock: I reckon Brickworx may be making a bigger mark up that he should be, but that's his decision and it's a consumers decision whether or not to buy it.


OMG not profit, how dare a small business make a profit :shock:


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First of all, a majority of these front cuts do not come from wrecked vehicles. Most are perfectly good, rust and dent free, early/mid 90's minis that need to be chopped up before they get containered. If they didnt get chopped up you would be paying more, because a whole car takes up 4x more space for almost no more selling value. And the whole cars cant get complianced here, so why bother filling the container with the bits that wont sell.


Secondly, demand for Rover front cuts is SO high, that Steve basically sells them for a few hundred dollars less than what he can get if he split em all up into seperate pieces. Most of his frontcuts are sold from pictures, before they leave Japan.

They are sold for what they are worth....... which is why Starlets are so cheap - theyre not worth anything, and nobody wants em. You try advertising a Starlet brake booster and see how many people are waiting at your door.

Shop around all you want, or try to import one yourself if you think you can do better. You'll soon find out how many people you NEED to pay before it gets onto your trailer. Dont forget that you need to FIND the car in Japan too....


Its not just imports that are expensive. a completely stuffed BMC or Leyland 1275 still sells for $500 to $1000. Commodore engines sell for maybe 1 or 2 hundred. Why? Cos theyre not worth anything and nobody wants em.


Nobody is forcing you to buy one, but other people are more than willing to take your place in the queue. :wink:



The reason that they are cut is twofold

1 they do not need to get approval to bring the bits in( if its a car you need an import approval)
2 freight costs, you can fit a dozen front cuts in a 20ft container and the freight cost stays the same its on the size of cantainer not whats in it :D

no one said they came from wrecks it just Japan do not want old cars on there roads and they make it hard and expensive to keep them there.


Afraid demand for Rover front cuts is not as high as you think Steve is about the only importer bringing them in, good for him but if there was great demand one of the bigger Jap importers would still be doing it and they all stopped,good for Steve but doesn't mean they are soild for what they are worth, they are sold for what some people will pay for them, big difference

If you want to import one give me a PM as thats what I do and for Ausmini people I help for free and just for example the midas cost $3500 landed all costs paid for on the dock in Sydney so I do know what I am talking about, I do it every second week :D

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yeah that's great .. 3.5k for mini with an upside down fibreglass boat on it.

I'd rather import my goods from someone who isn't arrogant and self righteous.

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cush wrote:
you might want to leave you're assuptions on business' pricing structures in private, champ...

unless you're absolutley certain you know you're up on all the facts...;)


Assumptions? What are you talking about? :? I called and spoke in person with Steve many times about front cuts and almost put a deposit on one but decided it wasn't for me. I got quote 5.5 K for 1.3i, air-con, walnut dash w/gauges, H4 headlights, and with a good front as I was going to make a bar-fridge from it, which would have been cool. But he eventually said he'd take 5 K for it, went to put a deposit but that one got sold earlier that day :( , doesn't matter though I'm happy with what I have. If you were refering to the 4EFTE price... I went and checked, I was wrong, it would be about 1200 for the engine setup without all the front end extras. Not Adelaide jap tho, a sydney company but can't find their web page again!!

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Cush you don't know me or anything so hows go and get ..........sound, I have not said dont buy them I just offered for free to help anyone that would like to try, that is not arrogant thats trying to help people, but that is something that you wouldn't know anything about is it, if you think your so smart dick lets here it, how you know so much about things you have never done

As for my car you are entitled to your opinion Cush< I mean at least you know your own opinion and in your opinion your a clever man :lol:

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Feralsprint I must say that you got a pretty good deal on a car as rare on Aussire roads as yours for that price, or as rare in the world for that matter, I don't know much about the Midas Mini so I can't say, but I've never seen one driving on Aussie roads!

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slinkey inc wrote:
Feralsprint I must say that you got a pretty good deal on a car as rare on Aussire roads as yours for that price, or as rare in the world for that matter, I don't know much about the Midas Mini so I can't say, but I've never seen one driving on Aussie roads!



Yeah it was a good deal :D and I even offered it to the people before I purchased it but no one was interested and it came with 2 extra sets of disc brakes :lol: it is the only one here untill we get another maybe next year but as there are only about 100 left in the world it will be a bit of a search

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slinky (tim, isn't it?)

this is the assumption i was refering too

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I reckon Brickworx may be making a bigger mark up that he should be, but that's his decision and it's a consumers decision whether or not to buy it.


and using words like

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extortionate


out of the blue when you said the reason you didn't buy one was

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almost put a deposit on one but decided it wasn't for me. I.....went to put a deposit but that one got sold earlier that day


that's what i piped up about.. it was just a friendly suggestion ;)

whereas.....

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Cush you don't know me or anything

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...trying to help people, but that is something that you wouldn't know anything about is it,


just a touch hypocritical, isn't it?

besides....who said i was calling you arrogant and self righteous...

it's not my fault people are too sensitive about things they read...

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i opologise to you, but trying to be a smart ass doesn't excuse the facts

what I dont have any regret s about is the 3 people who have already contacted me about help

And now using somones elses methods of trying to be a smart ass, go figure, maybe you are just not smart enough for your own methods

To make a comment without direction is pointless though

and the only person I have ever refused to help knows who he is and why :D

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feralsprint wrote:
Cush you don't know me or anything so hows go and get ..........sound, I have not said dont buy them I just offered for free to help anyone that would like to try, that is not arrogant thats trying to help people, but that is something that you wouldn't know anything about is it, if you think your so smart dick lets here it, how you know so much about things you have never done

As for my car you are entitled to your opinion Cush< I mean at least you know your own opinion and in your opinion your a clever man :lol:

Jon


Take some responsibilty for the way people respond to you.

I think what you put earlier was not the best advise as well. Whilst I am sure you know exctly what your doing, dealing with a company has distinct advantges that are worth the extra money. If you do it yourself and something goes wrong or you have overlooked something you carry the can.

When somebody else does it they take the risk. If it all goes pear shaped you have options.

Also lets not help make a business thats goes the extra mile for so many people less viable. Whilst I understand helping people, I dont understand doing so at the expense of of somebody else.


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wellat least you are not pretending to be someone else now :lol:

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