No cd player in my car yet. But I still have the original belts in mine, I'm lucky to reach the ignition with my belt on LMFAO

Same as I said on another thread. Your car must comply with the ADR's when your car was manufactured. The first ADR's were introduced in 1969 to my knowledge.

The address here is the most accurate I have been able to find with originating dates on it. If your car was manufactured after these dates, then your vehicle must comply with them.
http://www.chargerclubofwa.asn.au/Articles/ADRs.htm.

I still cant tell you about the legality of your REAR seatbelts Doc, apart from this statement I found.

In 1971, legislation was introduced requiring seat belts to be fitted to motor cars for all seats. Further legislation made wearing seat belts compulsory. In 1995, new seat belt regulations were enacted requiring all children, regardless of age, to be correctly restrained. The new Australian Road Rules, introduced in Western Australia in December 2000, make drivers responsible for ensuring that all passengers under the age of 16 are seated in a position that is fitted with a seat belt and that the restraint is properly adjusted and securely fastened.
Legge M., Kirov C, Cercarelli R. (2001). Reported Road Crashes in Western Australia 2000. Road Safety Council of Western Australia

In my opinion, you must have your front seatbelts since ADR's came into effect in '69, but it was only in '71 that they were required for every seat. But reading the last half of that statement, means you are obligated to make sure any child under 16 is in a seat WITH a seatbelt. So NO, your car shouldnt need rear belts, just make sure that anyone in the back is over 16.

Sorry bout the long winded post, finding that info almost gave me an aneurism.

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Thanks!
Actually while I'm on this Colin Chapman kick- "if U can't add more power, add lightness" the rear seat might just go, so no bastard can sit in there anyhow.. or is there an ADR that prevents this??

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Very true. Mr Lotus never got much wrong! Your car would have to be regoed as a 2 seater, right?

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OH, GET STUFFED LMFAO.

Seriously, if you change the number of seating positions in a car, then ya need a compliance plate, to reflect the change. Ya only need an inspection from an authorised inspection station(specific roadworthy joints can do them. Going down in number, should be easy. Going up would be more difficult with anchor points etc.
EDIT.... Most car's will have the number of seats stamped on the original Compliance plate

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Er....?? This is NSW...

My brother runs a Mazda 323 hatch (old RWD) as a rally car- for the last 5 years- has the SAAS seat, the 4 point harness, the roll cage, no back seat, no wuckin' furries!

I don't think they count seats at rego time..

The cops could care less... I dunno if legal, or not. Motor is a stocker..

<EDIT> Just checked my RPM harness- bit of paper sez they are tested to and exceed AS2597.13, and exceed dynamic strength spec of AS 2596-1983, whatever that means...
I think I'll pull the inertia reel belt out, and refit original lap/sash WITH this harness- there's no room under the reel to spin the eyebolt.

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kevin the rear mount for the shoulder straps should be mounted towards the top of the rear seat and you will need to weld in a plate behind the upright so if anything did happen the bolt won't rip out seen this happen on a shitta young bloke street raceing rolled the car and it riped the rear mount out smashing his head into the steering wheel and out the drivers window
makka

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Anonymous moderation means the agro that is built up towards the mods isn't aimed at an individual (fewer "Makk" attacks). Less stress for mods means less moderator "retirements".

Makka, it will be bolted to an FIA mounting plate thru the parcel tray, which will be also be reinforced by a 3.5mm grade 1016 plate cut to shape of the rear seat back.

Same as I did on my 850 back in `68...

<edit> well I found the lap mounts eyebolt JUST fits OK with the inertia reel so I'll leave it in for now. Just got to organise the rear one today. Nearly ready for Wakefield..

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

sweet
makka

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Anonymous moderation means the agro that is built up towards the mods isn't aimed at an individual (fewer "Makk" attacks). Less stress for mods means less moderator "retirements".

Hehe... the Cobra seat's in, the 3 point harness is in, steering column's lowered, I took it for a fang- I'm just draining the water now to pull the head off in the morning.
Needs intake valve seals (I have smick Viton ones from US), new head gasket (I got little bubbles) and I might just make the ports a `little' bigger while it's off.

Or, just whack the other head (11.8:1) on, for Wakefield Pk. Decisions, decisions...

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Kevin,

Its my understanding that the RPM belts are to Australian standards. They are made in OZ and I'm sure they don't meet the FIA standard so I'd assume Australian.

Is there a white patch sewn on the underside of the belt down near the buckles?

HRS

They are called a 2" Club Harness.
Nope, no cloth patches anywhere. There is a square yellow webbing patch sewn on under each buckle- is that what you mean? but no numbers or anything. In the Revo racegear catalog it does say they may not be street legal.... They are clip-ons, not bolt-ins.

Anyhow my inertia reel still works, I'll drive down with that.

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were minis ever registered anywhere as a 5 seater ?

could i put a lap sash in the middle of the rear seat so to sit three kids ( all under 10yrs old) or will i have to get it engineered?

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AFAIK any new modifications to the current body (which you may require to do to put middle belts in, ie. weld strengthenning plates) needs enginneering certificate

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My guess is that is the car DID NOT have rear belts as standard (pre 1971?), then you can fit one yourself and hope it is safe. If belts were standard and you are adding or modifying, engineering certificate may be necessary.

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I raised this 5 or so years ago with a copper friend and an RTA field officer , then they said if they were in the car they had to be used , if they had been put in the car you could not remove them , if they had been in the car at any stage and been removed by someone else you must put them back in , if they weren't in the car originally or hadn't been put in by someone then you didn't have to put them in . Of course this covered front and rear seats and basically meant what it came out with had to be there and had to be used . Not sure how much of that is current and obviously the under 16 years rule applies now as well .

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