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Got a reply to an email i sent to HP High Performance Products in Victoria regarding the supercharger kit in question. I asked a few questions and this is the email i recieved back, very helpful people it seems.
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Hi Rodney. Thank you for your enquiry.


Our supercharger kit is designed to be fitted to a basically stock engine.
Provided the engine is in good condition, and within manufacturers tolerances there is generally no extraordinary mods. required in the milder stages of tune.


Bearing in mind that some of these vehicles are now nearly 40 years old, and more than likely, have been rebuilt or modified from the standard specification, this must be taken into account when designing a successful supercharger system. Many rebuilt engines have a higher than original comp. ratio, and camshaft changes are often made at the time of rebuild.

However, many mod's which work with conventional tuning can also be successfully employed on supercharged applications.

Generally we find that the 96 octane (roughly similar to 91 US) fuel available here is the limiting factor in safe power production.
Therefore we need to ascertain the actual ratio of each individual vehicle to establish just how much boost could safely be used. We tailor each kit to suit chosen engine spec. and available fuel octane.
Excellent results have been possible with 8.0 and 8.5: 1 comp. ratios.

Prior to delivery we will require the following engine details:
Bore size (if altered from stock)
Stroke (if altered from stock)
Compression ratio, (or preferably cc of comb. chamber, cc of piston bowl, deck height)
Fuel (octane rating) available
Desired boost (or power) be realistic now !!!!!
Camshaft timing profile,
Fuel (octane rating) available

Power would start around 30% improvement over standard and could reach 100% given the correct set-up.
In our kit fuel requirements are taken of by the SU HIF 6 carby supplied (the metering needle fitted may require slight changes to suit each individual installation). The distributor advance curve should, ideally, be modified to suit the engine's new requirement, or we can supply a brand new Bosch distributor with a suitable curve.

Our comprehensive kit includes all components (incl. new SU carby and K&N filter) to convert a standard Mini to a supercharged Mini, including detailed fitting notes.

The list price (for current stock) of our Mini kit is $5375.00 AUD plus GST,
Anticipated price for next production batch $5920.00 AUD plus GST.
and freight to Brisbane would be around $50.00 AUD

Regards,
Hans J. Pedersen
HP High Performance Products
Victoria. Australia
Ph. +61 3 9874 1800
http://www.hi-flow.com
[email protected]

hope this helps out a few people considering the kit, me on the other hand, its jus that lil bit too expensive for me, may have to go down the sc12 route but im still not 100% convinced about that supercharger....

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Why not convinced? Toyota seemed pretty convinced by it.....

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i spoke to link about it once, they recomended against it. they said "its pretty much like a tuned 1275 with a slightly better top end"
and the cost was around 7k.
they even said its cost outweighs its gain
if you going to spend that much cash you may aswell buy an 8v/16v bmw head, thats what i did. not sure how much the engine build will cost in the end but im sure it'll be worth it

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I have the SC12 kit in my car. Fitting it wasn't easy! Not at all!

Band for buck it seems the best way, by far. But if I did have the money I would have got the 'Link' Kit. It's complete. The SC12 kit, made by '92' on here is great. BVut the link kit is awesome, due to my finanicial situation the SC12 kit was the only way.

Supercharger cost me $250 (plus lots in courier bills due to a dodgy seller), kit cost $850, '92' delivered it my house, cheers. Carby cost 40 bucks. Filter cost 50 bucks, ram tube will cost 50 bucks, when it arrives. :roll: . Extra heater and fuel hose length cost me about 50 bucks. It all adds up but still is much cheaper. According to '92' it should run about 6-7psi.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:03 pm 
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it does sound like a much better option financial wise, but as you said its not the easiest thing to fit, what modification was required to fit it to the car???? are these sc12 superchargers reliable and last long??? does "92" still make the kits and for that price??
"convinced" wasnt the right word to use, its jus whether they will be good and not ruin the engine??
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:38 pm 
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as far as i am aware 92 still makes the sc12 kit and also i think is making a kit to suit the sc14 too. I hope he still makes them as im wanting to order one. Im just tryign to get a hold of him.
Does anyone have his number that i could call him on as i havent been able to get through to him via email?

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I personally know the guy, he is a member of Hotbricks. I bought my kit off him back in December I think. Last I heard from him he was going to keep making, I dunno about SC14, as when I asked him about it, he said he put so much time and effort into getting the SC12 kit right on, changing sueprcharger would be a fair bit of work. But maybe since then he's changed his mind.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:25 pm 
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Pretty sure 92 still makes 'em... got my kit home delivered 2 weeks ago!

Slinkey- ru goin 2 run an oil cooler? And the heater core, been thinkin down the same line, but there isn't much room in a roundie.. U got any pics or info from when u put yours in that would help me. I'll be putting mine in shortly.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:28 pm 
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I'll take a pic now!

Brb!

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I haven't finished routing the fuel line yet, so it'a bit messy, but anyways.

That is an HS6 carby off of a Rover 2000. I have bought a couple of 1 3/4 inch HIF carbies, and we'll see how they fit, before I finish all the fuel line and throttle linkage. I have proved that an HS6 can fit with a inch or so of spacing, a clubman cltuch master and probably a lump in the bonnet LOL.

We'll see how the HIF's fit in, next week, then finish up and off to a dyno when I choose one and make some phone calls.

I'm not expecting high out results. Afterall a stage 1 with supercharger should only be 50% power (at the most, very likely less!) increase over stock. Which is a lot compared to stock but nothing on a race or track prepped mini.

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BTW Sox 61, I have an oil cooler, and ahve a large heater core ready, but will not use the heater as I got one of those fancy 'Hi-Flow 2 cores' which works awesome, and I got a thermo fan for low speed or no speed cooling.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:55 pm 
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Looks good m8.. U polished it up pretty nicely!
Yeah, i have a 2 core radiator as well and she stays cool so thought it may not be worth it.. Think i will get an oil cooler tho, she'll be working a bit harder.
Was also looking at the hp kit and this one http://www.vmaxscart.co.uk/ but were out of my price range.

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No major probs fitting the blower u can tell me about (what'd u cut the mounts off with- hacksaw?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:07 pm 
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So has the kit that 92 makes has all the parts that are required to put the sc12 on the engine??? what modifications have u needed to do in order for the supercharger to work???
Think i may have to get in contact with 92....anyone have his email?? (if he has one other than ausmini one)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:05 am 
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everything you need except the carby and supercharger itself is included,
its an awesome kit and i highly recommend it..

and it has full instructions! and he home delivers hehe


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