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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:54 am 
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Before everyone goes NOT AGAIN!!!

I am studying Mechanical enginnering, and working at a brake sleeving place part time. I have discussed the upgrade market with my boss and the legalities etc.

I was thinking of doing either the honda or Camira upgrade for a starlet pick-up I am doing. But I have a few question's first.

Does anyone know of anything else that works other than camira/civic/accord.

And I think I could do a rear wheel disk off a pulsar for 12's 13's

obviously I would need to do something for those who want to keep 10 inch rims, but with the rising cost of a set of disks for a mini, I think a Australian Produced and Supported alternative should be offered.

Obviously this creates a large ammount of contention as to the legalities. But I don't think that should come into this thread. Ultimatley you need to proove they work before an engineer and legal people will support you.

I just want to hear of alternative setups pls

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the english use mk1 fiesta bits....

not sure what the equivalent is in oz..

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cush wrote:
the english use mk1 fiesta bits....

not sure what the equivalent is in oz..

It's NOT Festiva, I checked that out already. :wink:

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i soon replace my cooper s discs with a Ford Fiesta Mk3 brake setup, its ATE made and easier to get than the Mk1 Bendix parts over here. fits the same way

to make a rear disc setup i use Volvo 440 parts, the rear calipers have the needed handbrake to make them streetlegal over here

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Thanks, But Fiesta's and volvo's aren't cheap for parts (pad's and rotors) in Australia, we need something common, I am drawn towards a N13 Pulsar conversion, I have tracked down a N13 car and a drum front and rear subfame I will let you know how it goes. I know itll take some work but I want to make a good kit that is a good imprvemnt and it has to fit under 13's. The 10's I am going to have trouble with. Just a quickie. are all drum hubs the same before I jump to a silly conclusion.

and what's the offset differences, Obviously early mini's had nos-spacers (skinner track F+R) then their was the spacers on Clubbies and Clubbie LS's then their was the disks were they wider in the front track again?

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Spacered Drums and Disk track is exactly the same :)

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Mini Mad wrote:
Spacered Drums and Disk track is exactly the same :)

... S discs.
If you put 25mm spacers on with Civic discs, you get about the same.

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That leaves me with the are all swivel hubs for drums the same? no differences I have ever come across, but I don't want to assume it as gospel

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i'd go with 99% they are all the same. drum or disk swivel hubs..there are only two i have seen.

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unless you include metro.


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The main dimensions of drum and Mini disc swivel hubs inside and outside are the same, except disc ones have lugs on front to mount the caliper, and drum ones have tapped holes to mount the backplate.
I've always wondered WHY BMC didn't make a common one, to fit both, considering discs came in early on the 997 Cooper... but that would involve logic. :lol:
BTW the Cooper 997-998 swivel hubs are identical to Cooper S, but the rest of their disc setup (including CVs) is not. :wink:

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You guys aren't calling a swivel hub what I would have called a swivel hub....I would have called the bit with the ball joints the hub.

I just re-read the question as well, and he only mentioned drums, so ignore my bit about metro.


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smac wrote:
You guys aren't calling a swivel hub what I would have called a swivel hub....I would have called the bit with the ball joints the hub.

I just re-read the question as well, and he only mentioned drums, so ignore my bit about metro.

I'm calling a swivel hub a swivel hub, as you do. :wink:
What some people call a `hub' is a drive flange, in Minispeak.

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hmmmm....drive flange makese sense to me. Methinks a lot of people mean 'upright' when they say hub or swivel hub though.....

or it could just me me :lol:


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Upright is a term from conventional RWD cars, not FWD.... that's the bit with front stub axle attached.:wink:

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