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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:17 pm 
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As mentioned before I'm doing my van as a mythical works rally support van and just after ideas of what spares etc you would expect to see in the back of a late 60's rally support vehicle . Sofar have battered etal tool box which will get some period performance stickers , large polished copper fire extinguisher for rear , small polished brass fire extinguisher for front , tow rope , wheels , BMC labelled boxes for filters etc , lap time stopwatch board ????? ALso looking to make a large dummy battery like some pit crews had for repeated jump starting . I'm designing a frame with shelving either side to fit the rear floor and bolt down to the roll cage mounts and other points and all items will be bolted to that in case of accident but wondering what else you would expect see in a rally support vehicle ?

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Metal frame ramps - and a large lever action device that fits under the sub-frame and lifts both front wheels when pulled down.

Umm.. hard to describe but simple design and similar to whats used in most shearing sheds to stack 200 kg wool bales.

I saw Evan Greens rally clubman being lifted by a works team one night waaaay back then.


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Good point , and they're fairly light too (don't want to weigh it down too much ...) . I know the type of lifting doover you mean , I think formula one still uses something similar to lift their cars , big lever basically with a buily in pivot .

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late 60's ...

hydro pump

drum of engine oil with an old logo on it, glass 1 pint and/or 1 quart oil bottle(s) or a metal measuring can

plugs, points, leads and cap

brake compenents (cylinders, shoes, hoses, etc)

spare globes and sealed beams

lots of boxes with the BMC logo on them :lol:

If it's only for display, most can be old parts that have been cleaned up and maybe painted like new or in clear to stop rust


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Roof rack with spare rally tyres on it, jerry cans.

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Did they have Hydraulic Jacks in the 60s? :?

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Hydraulic Jacks
Of course, but they were big heavy and clumsy. A quick lift lever pivot thing was so much better and more stable on forest section roads.

Back then when rain used to fall in the country areas, jacks were known to sink into wet dirt at the expense of the service crew member pined underneath


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Hydraulic Jacks
Of course, but they were big heavy and clumsy.


which made them very hard to fit under a Mini with a flat tyre/missing wheel/collasped hydro/ etc

But they would probably had a smaller piston style unit that could be put inside a bent panel to push it out.


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VicMini13 wrote:
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Hydraulic Jacks
Of course, but they were big heavy and clumsy.


which made them very hard to fit under a Mini with a flat tyre/missing wheel/collasped hydro/ etc

But they would probably had a smaller piston style unit that could be put inside a bent panel to push it out.

I have a Lightburn grease jack here, it's telescopic and gets real low. Mike would remember these.
If ya want it for free you are welcome. Yes, it still works. :lol:

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2 S's & a clubman wrote:
Roof rack with spare rally tyres on it, jerry cans.

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Yeah , roof rack is planned , Steve from brickworx has something similar to original coming from Japan and failing that looking at making one . have 2 rusty cooper s rims on the way to use with an old rally tyre and a slick , what type of fuel can would have been used , a steel jerry can or a round 5 gallon drum ?


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I have a Lightburn grease jack here, it's telescopic and gets real low. Mike would remember these.
If ya want it for free you are welcome. Yes, it still works.


Any chance of some photo's Doc , sounds appropriate and I'd be definitely be interested in it .

An old oil drum sounds good , plus water , I've got glass pint and quart bottles that were going to be spirits decanters for the garage but they'll go well in the van unless I find some of the plastic ones . Other random spares as well but will mostly be the light ones ...

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Continental sealed beam headlights.....we all know what happened last time bmc failed to carry those!

sounds like a cool idea Ian, roof rack idea is great.

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Haha , good idea Jed , hadn't thought of that ....

VicMini13 , I had also thought of a hydrolastic pump but finding a genuine one cheap enough for display only might be a bit hard , might look at a mock up though , along with an empty drum with a madeup BMC hydro sticker .

I'm basically going through my accumulated spares as well so there will be a radiator , an old oil cooler (I don't trust old oil coolers on engines) , disc rotors , twin carbs etc (got a lot of bits and pieces that look complete but need a full rebuild to be servicable , this is a way of using them :D ) , just need to figure a way of caging them all so they are visible but cannot move around or rattle .

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Later works rally cars had a hydro pump plumbed into the system and mounted where the rear seat used to be.

Ummmm and driveshafts....they carried spares in the barges :idea:

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The rally teams used to use a grease gun type of hydro pump.
The works cars with the built in pumps were for the Safari Rally where there was very little servicing.

I would get a jerry can or two and paint them in Shell yellow or similar.
Spares would be limited to what can be changed in a service period. Calipers, discs, driveshafts, rear shoes and drums, lights, cables, hoses, radiator, etc.


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sports850 wrote:
.... , I've got glass pint and quart bottles that were going to be spirits decanters for the garage but they'll go well in the van unless I find some of the plastic ones . ....


Choose spirits that are the approximate colour of motor oil and use them as decanters in the van :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:


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