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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:09 pm 
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The BMW engine is a motorcycle engine and the RTA would not allow it to be registered with a motorcycle engine. 8)

The BMW MINI does not have a BMW engine. The first model used a Chrysler motor and the current model uses a Peugeot motor. :wink:


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I always loved the irony of the BINI having a Chrysler engine... Given that the joint venture was organized just before the DaimlerChrysler "Merger of Equals". It was almost like a Holden with a Ford engine. :lol:


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Morris 1100,,, i`m pretty sure the Dpt of Tpt would allow a motorbike engine in a mini, as long as it is engineered well & has a reverse gear of some sort

& The first of the New BMW MINIs did have a chrysler engine but the new version which is now turbo charged has an all BMW engine,,, it`s just that Peugeot uses the same donk in one of their cars & was very quick to point it out to the media so as to make it sound like it was the other way around

but anyways, just thought i`d let you know the facts

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TheMiniMan wrote:
Morris 1100,,, i`m pretty sure the Dpt of Tpt would allow a motorbike engine in a mini, as long as it is engineered well & has a reverse gear of some sort
The RTA in NSW would probably baulk at the swap due to the emissions rules on engine swaps. But if you stamped your old engine number on the BMW block I doubt if they would ever know!

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.. but the new version which is now turbo charged has an all BMW engine,,, it`s just that Peugeot uses the same donk in one of their cars & was very quick to point it out to the media so as to make it sound like it was the other way around
Ta, I was told it was the other way around. :wink:


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The BMW bike engine turns the opposite direction & then has an "Idler" gear to change directions back to the right way before driving the gearbox.

I don`t believe it would be worth trying to fit the whole BMW bike engine onto a mini gearbox cause it`s such a right mess of an adaption that the time /effort & money & the shear egineering of it is just way way too much to even concider

i have looked at the whole lot & it`s just not an easy application at all

But the bike engine "Idea" like a Suzi hyabusa or a Yammy R1 etc into a mini subframe is quite a neat package, mine is sweet & the reverse gear part is easy with just the fitment of a starter motor onto a ring gear on the the diff,,, or sproket on the starter into the chain. easy-peasy :-)

& i can`t see a problem with emissions for Dpt of Tpt approval as nearly all the late bike engines that are currently imported from Japan have emissions stuff all over them, so it shouldn`t be an issue. But i`m yet to check with my people,,, it`s not "what" you know, but "Who" :-)

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I'm aware the K1100 rotates backwards- but why not change direction?
We did it years ago with a Fiat 850 sport motor (anti-clockwise rotation) we had put on a 600 box- as the car then had 4 reverse gears and 1 forward! :lol:
So we turned pistons around, and swapped the cam, oil pump, starter, dizzy etc from the 600.
Can't you just turn the pistons around, blah blah? not rocket science.... :wink:

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Doc, the Bimmer bike engine lays down sideways, that`s the main problem with trying to convert it to a mini box, plus the fact that the massive "Idler" gear is situated in quite a funny weired spot & then you`d need some wild adaptor plates & AHHHgggrrr,,, it`s just way too much to bother when all you really need is the cyl head from it ,,,& it`s soooo dam easy to bolt that onto a mini donk. If you took a look at the Bimmer donk you`d see what i mean.

& we do reverse the direction of rotation of the cams in the Bimmer cyl head when fitting it onto the mini donk anyways, they`re concentric cams so it`s all good :-) change the plug leads around & start the car, easy-peasy :-)

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am i thinking right in the fact that the bike is rated 110hp, you'll get much more out of using the head on a mini block (with more cc's) then if you just used the bike assem?
on a std 1275, with a bmw 16v head with efi, 120hp should be pretty easy to reach NA

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yes is the answer - my 8v twin cam 1293cc made 107bhp on bone stock 8v components, my 1380 16v made 163 bhp on ported head/ sprint cams - 34mm throttle bodies (160ish is the limit for 34mm bodies) - its now wearing 38mm K1200 bodies and will hit the dyno next week.

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All the pulleys have arrived from Japan, (Finally) all shiney & new, :-) we have most of the kit all programed into the CNC machine now, just wating to get some more time on the mini cam pulley boss & the upper cyl head blanking end plate & we`re ready to do runs on all the bits.

The old broken down CNC machine is also now up & running again so we are all ahead steam

Just thought i`d give you all an up-date

:-) &yes i am very happy indeed :-)

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Doc I believe the old Lightburn Zeta did the same thing, you could start the engine in reverse and have 4 reverse & 1 forward gear!

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benoz wrote:
Doc I believe the old Lightburn Zeta did the same thing, you could start the engine in reverse and have 4 reverse & 1 forward gear!

I think the Zeta was started in reverse direction to go backwards- it had no reverse gear. :wink:
I seem to remember Goggomobil too? My mate had one . "No, not the Dart..." :lol:

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i congratulate you for dreaming this up and deciding to make kits for the rest of us to enjoy,

will you be doing drive in drive out conversions? as i think this would be far too complicated for mere mortals to do themselves..


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Spaceboy i`m doing just that for 2 customers right now, one is going into a really nice looking moke with turbo injection etc & hope Watto likes it enough to do a write up & photo shoot for the mini experience magazine, so i spose the answer is yeah, allready doin it :-)

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& just because i like you all soooooo much i thought i`d give you all a sneak preview of the moke that is in the process of being "Turbo injected Bimmer Twinky-ised"

:-)

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